What do you think the jw response would be if I asked if the Faithful&Discreet Slave is considered to mediate for jw's? Would they admit that?...or would they say that Jesus is? From what I've seen here, they seem to acknowledge that the Governing Body/FDS mediates. Right?
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Jesus or Governing Body...Who's the Mediator?
by AwSnap inwhat do you think the jw response would be if i asked if the faithful&discreet slave is considered to mediate for jw's?
would they admit that?...or would they say that jesus is?
from what i've seen here, they seem to acknowledge that the governing body/fds mediates.
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Which coffee person are you?
by Newborn inespresso (single or double)?capuccino?latte?latte macchiato?american coffee?coffee with flavour?black coffee with milk or sugar?i am definately a latte person!!
gotta have one each morning.. i regret we don't have starbucks in sweden.
/newby.
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I drink dark roast with 6 drops of Stevia. If I'm being naughty, I prefer frozen machiato (double) with caramel. Mmmmmmm. But I REALLY prefer this:
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They can explain EVERYTHiNG...
by AwSnap in1 samuel 31:4 & 2 samuel 1:10. i asked a jw about these two scriptures.
they looked it up & said, "well, obviously, the amalekite was lying!
what are your thoughts?
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Glenster, you probably would win at Balderdash with that last part. Are there any books that show ALL of the contradictions in the Bible?
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586/587 the K.I.S.S. approach --- no VAT4956, Ptolemy, Josephus needed
by Alleymom innabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
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The ONE 'sin' I NEVER heard of in all my time as a JW . . . . .
by nicolaou ini never heard of any sister having an abortion - doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that i never heard of one.. i've personally known child abusers, closet gays, drunks and thieves all within my time at just 2 congregations.
i know one brother who hid the fact he had blood transfusions at a critical time.
now i'm certainly not lumping in an abortion with acts of abuse or dishonesty, and for the record i don't consider it a 'sin' (whatever that is).
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Lillith, someone I know was raped & the elders & her father made her refuse the morning-after-pill for exactly that reason.
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would there be any reason for you to attend another church?
by highdose ini don't mean go back to a kingdom hall, i mean other religons any of them.
can anybody think of a reason that they might do this?.
i', begining to feel curious about the church up my road, just curious, thought about popping in there one sunday, i will probably run out screaming 5 mins later but there you are....
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What kind of church is it, Highdose? That would depend a lot on whether you run out screaming. For instance, I went to a baptist church where they started gay bashing in the first 10 minutes & I wanted to run like hell out of there! But Methodist churches & Unitarian Churches seem very cool & welcoming . While I will NEVER go Catholic, a couple friends of mine want me to visit their church & I probably will, although I feel a bit uncomfortable about it.
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Is internet dating for losers?
by Newborn inafter almost a year of internet dating on various sites, i've concluded that it's not the place for me to meet the man of my dreams.
anyway, i'm happy i've given it a shot and i've gained lots of experience and even made a few male friends.
anyone here who's had better luck?.
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I've always wondered what kinds of questions those dating sites ask. My significant other wouldn't appreciate if I went on there, so I'll live through you guys if that's okay? How do they pair you up with people? I'm really curious about the questions they ask you. I've had a few friends sign up for those dating sites & have had some great dates, though nothing lasting.
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The ONE 'sin' I NEVER heard of in all my time as a JW . . . . .
by nicolaou ini never heard of any sister having an abortion - doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that i never heard of one.. i've personally known child abusers, closet gays, drunks and thieves all within my time at just 2 congregations.
i know one brother who hid the fact he had blood transfusions at a critical time.
now i'm certainly not lumping in an abortion with acts of abuse or dishonesty, and for the record i don't consider it a 'sin' (whatever that is).
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True, it is illegal in many countries to disclose to unauthorized ones what is found in private records. But if a Christian feels, after prayerful consideration, that he is facing a situation where the law of God required him to report what he knew despite the demands of lesser authorities, then that is a responsibility he accepts before Jehovah ARe you kidding me?! Apparently H.I.P.A.A. laws weren't totally in effect at that time. I would LOVE to have something like this go down...I'd be suing (sp?) every person involved.
And yes, I have known of someone who got an abortion, was privately reproved & the matter was supposedly done and over with. However, someone found out and spread the gossip throughout numerous congregations & the elders did not reprimand the person who started it.
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They can explain EVERYTHiNG...
by AwSnap in1 samuel 31:4 & 2 samuel 1:10. i asked a jw about these two scriptures.
they looked it up & said, "well, obviously, the amalekite was lying!
what are your thoughts?
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I'm not familiar with this "controversy" but the first thing I thought of was that maybe the falling on the sword was not enough and the youth only heeded his pleas and put him out of his misery. Ohhhhh, it's a controversy alright. A scandelous controversy. Actually, it's just something that popped out at me & I checked it out on the WT Library after my jw conversation. Personally, I agree with the cynical comment above about "of COURSE the pagan was a liar" *sigh*. To me, it does seem like a screw-up, especially considering that Samuel supposedly wrote 2 books (with the help of Nathan & Gad, right?). Why didn't he specify which was truth? Why make people assume & guess? I was feeling a little frusterated when I started this thread because jw's can seriously manipulate everything to their liking. I have no problem with Christians (Like Chalam, PSacramento, & Granny Gough....but NOT SOB SOM) & so I was just wondering how they feel about this scripture as well.
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They can explain EVERYTHiNG...
by AwSnap in1 samuel 31:4 & 2 samuel 1:10. i asked a jw about these two scriptures.
they looked it up & said, "well, obviously, the amalekite was lying!
what are your thoughts?
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1 Samuel 31:4 & 2 Samuel 1:10
I asked a jw about these two scriptures. They looked it up & said, "well, OBVIOUSLY, the Amalekite was lying!" ....although it doesn't say that. What are your thoughts? Is this proof that the Bible is not true, or does the following article make sense?
w60 pg.415
How can the apparent contradiction between 1 Samuel31:4 and 2 Samuel1:10 be harmonized?—L.G.,France.
The record at 1 Samuel 31:4 reads: “Then Saul said to his armor-bearer: ‘Draw your sword and run me through with it, that these uncircumcised men may not come and certainly run me through and deal abusively with me.’ And his armor-bearer was unwilling, because he was very much afraid. So Saul took the sword and fell upon it.” At 2 Samuel 1:10 we have the words of an Amalekite addressed to David, claiming to have killed King Saul at his request: “So I stood over him and definitely put him to death, for I knew he could not live after he had fallen.”
A little reflection will make it all clear. On the one hand we have the inspired record, most likely by the prophets Nathan and Gad, telling just how King Saul died. They report it as a fact. On the other hand we have the claim of a pagan, an unknown youth of the Amalekites, which contradicts the divine record. Is there any reason for doubting the record of the inspired writers? No, there is not. Is there any reason for doubting the words of the pagan youth? Yes, there is, for it is reasonable to conclude that he was trying to curry the favor of David by posing as the slayer of the one who sought David’s life during his lifetime. What he said was therefore a deliberate falsehood. However, instead of getting him into the favor of David, it so aroused David’s wrath that he ordered the youth to be slain for having killed Jehovah’s anointed.—2 Sam. 1:15, 16.
