the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Dude Chalam- GOD HIMSELF refers to IT as "IT", then divides it UP!
Stephen- Jesus AND the other angels (messengers) are in the "nature" of God- since they, too "are spirit", NOT flesh. He never tried to be equal to God (as Satan has). Pay attention to the DETAIL!
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Nunbers 11:16- And the LORD said unto Moses, Gather unto me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom thou knowest to be the elders of the people, and officers over them; and bring them unto the tabernacle of the congregation, that they may stand there with thee.
17- And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone.
Romans 8:16-The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. -KJV
If you want to believe in Casper the Ghost-God, be my guest!
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Mary, have you ever STUDIED the Bible?
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
PS- since Jesus said "God IS spirit"- you are correct! However, since the SCRIPTURES, Christ and angels refer to IT as the POWER of God, the holy spirit is God IN ACTION!
casting aside what little you learned about god and christ- are you thrilled with the future of mankind?.
Well, Zagor- that is SAD. Too bad you "kept your eyes on the things below" (Men) rather than the "Things Above"( God). People will ALWAYS let you down, He won't... unless you leave Him.
Yes, the fact is that without faith (wether its real, or a fantasy)- all you have to look forward to is growing old and shrivelled up, and dying within a few years.
INSTINCTIVELY we ALL know there IS something more!
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Mary- what was your question? That every Christian will go to heaven?
JWalker- That we don't need works or deeds to be Christian?
PS- Jesus himself uses the holy ("clean, pure") spirit ("breath, wind") to carry out his God's will, so even tho is literally IS "the POWER" of God, as Gabriel described it to Mary, and as God HIMSELF called it "IT", Jesus was thinking ONLY of the One who was working and communicating THROUGH it- Jehovah.
See- http://www.themadjws.com/theonlytruegod.htm
And, THANK you for SERIOUS questions, rather than the crass cuts I'm used to at this site!
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Bwahahahahahahahaha!Just found this!
Let's taske one at a time- who's first?
(It's 9:30 pm- and will be knocking off soon- will CB in the morn!)
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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.
I'll try toget here more often, now that I see some Thinkers here!
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'Hellfire'- a non-Biblical word
You may not find that exact word, but the Lord's teaching is clear:
Then he will say to those on his left hand, "Go away from me, with your curse upon you, to the eternal fire created for the devil and his angels."... And they will go away to eternal punishment, and the upright to eternal life. [Matthew 26: 41, 46]
This shows that the Watchtower's denial of eternal damnation is not scriptural.
GLT"
FIRE was used everyday to cook- and to destroy: they threw their trash over the wall into Gehenna, where fires from sulphur were used to destroy it...EVERYONE listening to Christ knew what he meant- only CHURCHianity has perverted his words!
i'm trying to fade away, but i sometimes find myself in discussions or arguments with jw family/friends/white haired virgin elders.
now, i usually have them beat on things but i'm not very experienced, so i was thinking if you guys could help me put together a list of completely unanswerable questions to pose to my jw friends/family/elders so they can stop bugging me.
if i keep asking them questions they simply cannot answer, then they might leave them alone.
"Agreed, ask them to show you a list of Babylonian Kings and ask them how they arrived at 607 B.C.E. for the fall of Jerusalem."
First, if the Bible means nothing to you stop pretending- and fade. Disappear!\
If it DOES, do some real research into it. For example, this clown's accusation above. Since they need excuses to justify their lack of faith, the scripture mean little to them;
Jehovah said Jerusalem would be desolate 70 years.
Babylon fell in 539 BC, the jews were released 2 years later.
Counting back 70 years....BINGO! You get the fall of Jerusalem at 607 BC.
Of course, they would rather side with the 'educated guesses' of historians, rather the the people WHO WERE THERE, as recorded in the Bible...
www.theMadJWs.com is here; there are more than just ONE of me! heh!
on what basis do you make the claim that the leadership of the jw's, aka governing body, is the organization god is and has been working through continuously since 1919?.
Isaac. I focus ONLY on scripture- or I might have the same faithlessness as all of YOU.
Opinion on what the prophecies mean is Trivial Pursuit/
What a group teaches about God and Christ, as well as their Purpose is paramount!
I'm not a JW because of awe in men- but because of awe in God.
