Posts by theMadJW

they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

theMadJW

Nope- NEVER ignore this either. Remember, the comma doesn't EXIST in Koine Greek; it is placed by opinion.

Luke 23:43- And He said to him, "Truly I say to you today, you shall be with Me in Paradise."

God said man would DIE, return to the GROUND.

CHURCHianity (and most religions) teach he NEVER dies (immortal)- just changes form.

Who, Oh Who should I believe?????

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Do any of you still believe in 'Hellfire'? heh

by theMadJW in

that they (trinity) are burning billions alive...forever?

with worms that live forever gnawing on them?.

theMadJW

Jesus said it would be the Good News of the KINGDOM that his followers would preach.

Not 'grace', nor the Personal Savior incantation. Yhose are just PARTS of the Good News!

Again-

Think of a world, a world without tears ... Rev. 7:14
Where a man can live for a thousand years .... Isa. 33:34
With never a grief, an ache or a pain ...
And never a thought of dying again ... Isa. 25:8

Think of a world where a man plants a vine ... Ps. 107:37
He can sit in it's shade and say 'This is mine'... Isa. 22:25
He will dwell in the house his own hands have made ... Isa. 65:21
And none shall molest him, or make him afraid .. Mic. 4:4

Think of world without bloodshed and strife ... Ps.. 46:9
Where no man can take another man's life ... Prov. 12:28
Where man everywhere will unite in peace ... Ps. 37:11
And malice and hatred forever will cease ... John 13:35

Think of a world as a green paradise ... Isa. 36:12
Where mountains and desserts dazzle your eyes ...Isa. 53:12
With bountiful flowers, trees and skies ... Isa. 3: 1, 2
With animals, birds and bright butterflies ... Ps. 10: 24

Think, just as sure, as God's word is truth ... John 17:17
A man will go back to the days of his youth ... Job 33:25
His flesh will become as the flesh of a child...
And the words that he speaks will be gentle and mild ... Matt. 5:5

Think of a world where a lame man will leap ... Isa. 35:6
Bounding and leaping -with a JOYFUL weep...
Where none will be deaf and the blind ones will see ..
And dumb ones will speak and sing joyfully ... Isa. 35:6

Think of a world where men are all Brothers ... Matt.. 23:8
Esteeming themselves not above any others ... Phil. 2:3
Where a man greets a man as a friend to a friend ... John 15:13-19
In a world without tears that will never end ... John 10:28

Think of a world where the dead will arise ... Jer. 31:17
From their silent tombs to a dream paradise ... John 11:23-26
To live forever in true peace and Love ... 1Cor. 16:14
And all will be cared for by the Great One above ... 1Pet. 5:6,7

Now a world without tears is not just a dream ... Heb. 6:10
To some, too good to be true it may seem ... Tit. 1:2
But just as sure, as God's word is true ... John 17:17
A world without tears now lies before you ... 2Pet. 3:13

So if these words have opened your eyes ... Luke 21:28
Would you like to live in Earth's Paradise .... Luke 23:43
To share all the blessings that God has in store ... 1Cor. 2:9
For all who would do His Will evermore ... Ps. 37:4

'Good News' of this Kingdom is still being sung ... Rev. 14:6
Throughout every nation and people and tongue ... Matt. 24:14
And all who are thirsting for Truth are invited .... Rev. 7:16,17
To accept this Good news, and are warmly united ... Rev.7:9

In Praising our God, and our Savior and King ... Jer. 10:10
Who give to us all, our life, everything ... Ps. 36:9
So that we might live through endless years ... John 6:51
In a world without sorrow. A world without tears ... Rev. 21:3, 4

- Anonymous JW

And that, TOO, is just a PART of the Good News about what the Kingdom of God will accomplish!

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What accusations do you have about us JWs? AND what group are YOU a part of?

by theMadJW in

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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.

theMadJW

Science has many facts, and much fiction- as with ALL areas of human knowledge.

Placing full trust in it is to worship it.

Your choice.

Evolution is pure fiction baed on preconceived assumption regarding what they have found; who can argue with "BILLIONS of years ago"?

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What accusations do you have about us JWs? AND what group are YOU a part of?

by theMadJW in

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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.

theMadJW

How can I talk down to people- when I likely have more faults than many?

I talk down to false dogma- even our OWN!

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Do any of you still believe in 'Hellfire'? heh

by theMadJW in

that they (trinity) are burning billions alive...forever?

with worms that live forever gnawing on them?.

theMadJW

"When Jesus (in John 6) said: "I am the bread of life that came down from heaven."

What part of Jesus actually came down?"

Mad: How many 'parts' have you been taught he has????

Why do you insult the grace of God, by calling it "Escapism"?

Mad: It is your theology, not ANYTHING connected to God that I label escapism.

I don't need all the details. All I know is that the thief recieved a "FIRM PROMISE" to be in paradise without doing any works (unlike the JWs).

Mad: Yes, you DO need the DETAILS, since you claim to preach the "same gospel" he preached to that thief. Jesus, being Judge, can pardon Hitler, if he wished to! Prove what you said: How do you preach that 'gospel'- when you don't even know what it was? (NO DETAILS)

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Do any of you still believe in 'Hellfire'? heh

by theMadJW in

that they (trinity) are burning billions alive...forever?

with worms that live forever gnawing on them?.

theMadJW

Think on that- and the consequences of your church belief: have we ALWAYS been resurrected and judged at 'death'?

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Do any of you still believe in 'Hellfire'? heh

by theMadJW in

that they (trinity) are burning billions alive...forever?

with worms that live forever gnawing on them?.

theMadJW

"I tell you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body, and after that have nothing more that they can do.

Let me get this straight. So there are people who can just kill the body, without killing the lifeforce? How does that happen? What does that look like?

Mad: Men can kill us- but can't stop Christ from resurrecting us; that is why Christ referred to the dead as "sleeping". For example. they killed the Apostle Paul...but only temporairly- for he WILL live again! After all, Christ can and WILL EASILY re-form the body, and add his God and Father's spirit to it, so that Paul will onec AGAIN become a Living Soul!

Satan LIED; we all DO die...and thanks to our Lord will be resurrected at the Appointed Time!

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Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

by Mad Sweeney in

the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

theMadJW

Still waiting on a scripture we "ignore'...