suppose an active jehovah's witness sees a worldly person abusing a worldly child; for example, touching her genitals, and the witness goes to the police.
the worldly police will take action.. now, suppose the same jehovah's witness also sees a witness abusing a witness child in the same way, touching her genitals.
the witness knows he can't go to the elders because there are not two witnesses to the fact.. does the witness get to think that there is something very wrong about the two witnesses rule?
Oh, I see. This not a clear-cut WT procedure for dealing with pedophiles.
Sola - (So victims, go to the police 1st. Get a conviction from Caesar. Then bring that to the Elders as your "strong circumstantial evidence". If that doesn't get them df'd then at least they will be tagged and bagged for the entire congregation to see.)
Do elders still call WT Legal first? Or do they encourage the victim to the police and defer to the authorities in handling child abuse cases?
this guy posted a comment on one of my vids and as a typical jw thinks he knows all the answers to everything.
let's ask him some questions that might make him take his head out of his ass... post your question here :).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opi3im9p-vc.
I'm betting it's jr. high school. Basic high school biology teaches one about the components of blood.
this guy posted a comment on one of my vids and as a typical jw thinks he knows all the answers to everything.
let's ask him some questions that might make him take his head out of his ass... post your question here :).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opi3im9p-vc.
He seems really confused about what blood is. And he's confused about the WT Blood Policy.
He is either really young born-in or a super-zealous bible study.
this guy posted a comment on one of my vids and as a typical jw thinks he knows all the answers to everything.
let's ask him some questions that might make him take his head out of his ass... post your question here :).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opi3im9p-vc.
Is this it?
suppose an active jehovah's witness sees a worldly person abusing a worldly child; for example, touching her genitals, and the witness goes to the police.
the worldly police will take action.. now, suppose the same jehovah's witness also sees a witness abusing a witness child in the same way, touching her genitals.
the witness knows he can't go to the elders because there are not two witnesses to the fact.. does the witness get to think that there is something very wrong about the two witnesses rule?
Sola - Since corroborating evidence (including police dna evidence, court conviction etc) can be used as the "2nd" witness", a lying child abuser can get DF'd on the basis of just the child’s testimony,
Really? What publication is this policy detailed in?
this guy posted a comment on one of my vids and as a typical jw thinks he knows all the answers to everything.
let's ask him some questions that might make him take his head out of his ass... post your question here :).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opi3im9p-vc.
I left a question, his answer should interesting. And, no, he is not very knowledgeable about his faith. Bad PR for dubs.
and how far apart were they?.
thanks.
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suppose an active jehovah's witness sees a worldly person abusing a worldly child; for example, touching her genitals, and the witness goes to the police.
the worldly police will take action.. now, suppose the same jehovah's witness also sees a witness abusing a witness child in the same way, touching her genitals.
the witness knows he can't go to the elders because there are not two witnesses to the fact.. does the witness get to think that there is something very wrong about the two witnesses rule?
Titus - Well, I think that in that case, elders should accept the view of the secular source.
Titus, respectfully, you are missing the point. Many of the posters are saying, from personal experience and a position of leadership, that the elders do not accept the view of secular authorities when it comes to child abuse or crimes commited by JW's. If there are not two witnesses to a crime/incident, the elders will not deal with it. Period. And the accuser is told to keep quiet or the elders will take action against them.
Titus - You can go to police, no matter if elders will take a judicial action in congregation or not.
I know this comes from a good place but the victim is not encouraged by the elders to go to secular authorities. Period. They are told that doing so will bring reproach of the congregation, Jehovah's name and slandering the name of the accused. Going to authorities places their standing in the congregation at risk especially if the matter was dismissed by the elders for lack of two witnesses.
I work for the legal system and ALL accusations of this nature are investigated thoroughly. No matter the amount of witnesses to the crime. This is where the JW policy fails and creates a breeding ground for pedos. The WT's standard for handling these matters is under scrutiny, not the individual rank and file.
in boston try to find a kfc.
is it just massachusetts?
or anyone else notice this..... cause.... i'm scared.
KFC's are aplenty in my area. I haven't touched their chicken in years but their sides suck. Overcooked, greasy veggies and wedges, yuck.
i just massacred and entire bag of oreo cookies and quarter gallon of milk.
my stomach is killing me.
ohh, i just want to croak right now.
I got the bubbly guts just thinking about that combo!
