Thanks for sharing Leolaia, very intriguing story.
sherah
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Leolaia: Where is your story?
by pirata ini looked through your posts but couldn't find your life story.
have you written it?.
i would love to read your progression from/through jw to avid scholar :).
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Faders: What do you say?
by Mad Sweeney inok, i need some advice.
i'm technically inactive, as many of you know, with obvious apostate leanings that via gossip in the congregation has me shunned by most.. recently at work somebody asked me what religion i am.
i was taken aback and instinctively answered, "jehovah's witness," then quickly added "but i'm inactive.
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sherah
I feel ya, Mad Sweeney. Believe me, you will eventually get to a mental place as fader will you will not care what active dubs think of you.
I work with at least and see many during my commute. I speak and keep it moving. The ones on my job know "something" is "off" with me so they avoid me, this is cool with me. It's against policy to talk religion on the job but if a question concerning my affliation comes up, here are few that have worked for me - I'm a lapsed or non-practising JW OR I was raised a JW.
In your situation, I probably would've thanked them for the invitation and steered the conversation on non-dub related stuff. Don't give them any hope of your returning by reminising on people, places and events you have in common in the JW world. As you found out, it brings up feelings of guilt and anxiety.
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Why do JW's downplay older WT articles?
by mamalove ini was looking at brotherdan's thread about the two articles that really point out in the wtbs's own words that we must follow this organization, blah blah, and they are indeed a cult from reading those articles.
it made me think that i would love to show my mom and sister that, but i know the response would be "so what, that is a 40 year old magazine," it was dated 1969, and 1983 was the other article i believe.. are the jw's i know the only ones who poo poo older articles and say that thinking isn't up to date anymore, that new thinking has superceded those new articles?
even though we know that the overall thinking is the same.
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sherah
The downplay older articles because they buy into the WT belief of progressive light. But most dubs who don't accept older articles are usually stalling to get out of answering an uncomfortable question.
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An elder just wrote this on the "Prince" board...
by Tatiana init was in response to some things i and others posted about holidays, etc.
i don't know where he's an elder, but times have sure changed.
mimric i have never posted on this site but i have followed for 5yrs and i think its time because of this last post.
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sherah
I call BS on the gay BIL's too!
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An elder just wrote this on the "Prince" board...
by Tatiana init was in response to some things i and others posted about holidays, etc.
i don't know where he's an elder, but times have sure changed.
mimric i have never posted on this site but i have followed for 5yrs and i think its time because of this last post.
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sherah
Here some more on the evil innanets!
Watchtower '04 - 15th Feb"How can we guard against being deceived by apostates? By heeding the advice from God’s Word, which says: “Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.” (Romans 16:17) We “avoid them” by steering clear of their reasonings—whether in person, in printed form, or on the Internet."Watchtower '04 - 15th Sept"Seeds of doubt can be sown by the media, through the Internet, and by modern-day apostates."Watchtower '06 - 15th Jan
"Because of listening to the Devil and not rejecting his lies, the first human pair apostatized. So, then, should we listen to apostates, read their literature, or examine their Web sites on the Internet? If we love God and the truth, we will not do so. We should not allow apostates into our homes or even greet them, for such actions would make us ‘sharers in their wicked works.’ (2 John 9-11) May we never succumb to the Devil’s wiles by abandoning the Christian “path of truth” to follow false teachers who seek to “introduce ruinous ideologies” and try to ‘exploit us with well-turned phrases.’—2 Peter 2:1-3."Watchtower '06 - 15th Sept"We ought to keep far away from all immoral influences, whether they come through music, entertainment, the Internet, or books and magazines."
Watchtower '08 - 15th Feb"...snares still claim victims among God’s people. For example, the click of a mouse at a computer in the privacy of one’s own home may be all that a curious or unwary person needs to ruin his good conscience. How sad it would be if a Christian were to be enticed by Internet pornography!"
Watchtower '08- 15th Dec
"At Psalm 101:3, we find David’s words: “I shall not set in front of my eyes any good-for-nothing thing.” There are many opportunities today to set in front of our eyes good-for-nothing things, particularly when we are alone. Access to the Internet has presented many with a challenge in this regard. It is easy to be lured into looking at suggestive, even pornographic, material. But is doing so an act of obedience to the God who inspired David to pen those words? Pornography is harmful, for it inflames wrong and greedy desires, damages the conscience, erodes marriages, and degrades everyone involved."
'GOD'S LOVE' book'08
"You can also absorb that evil spirit through objectionable literature, pornographic or apostate Internet sites, unwholesome entertainment, and highly competitive sports—really, through anyone or anything that conveys the thinking of Satan or his system."
'TEACHER' book '03
"Where do people learn a lot about violence and improper sex and spirits and ghosts?— Isn’t it from watching certain television shows and movies, playing computer and video games, going on the Internet, and reading comic books? Does doing these things bring us closer to God or closer to the Devil and his demons?"
Kingdom Ministry Sept '02
"Bear in mind that our heavenly Father has an appointed channel of communication, “the faithful and discreet slave.” That “slave” has the responsibility to determine what information is made available to the household of faith, as well as “the proper time” for it to be dispensed. This spiritual food is available only through the theocratic organization. We should always look to God’s appointed channel for reliable information, not to a network of Internet users.—Matt. 24:45."
Kingdom Ministry Jan '03
"Being surrounded by Satan’s world, we must exercise self-discipline, avoiding anything that could contaminate our mind or corrupt our heart. (Prov. 4:23; Matt. 5:29, 30) Christians are admonished that they “cannot be partaking of ‘the table of Jehovah’ and the table of demons.” (1 Cor. 10:21) This requires that we guard against unwholesome entertainment, bad associations, and dangers on the Internet. It also calls for our shunning apostate material." -
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An elder just wrote this on the "Prince" board...
by Tatiana init was in response to some things i and others posted about holidays, etc.
i don't know where he's an elder, but times have sure changed.
mimric i have never posted on this site but i have followed for 5yrs and i think its time because of this last post.
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sherah
Here's one on the internet.
7/07 KM:
Question Box
What are the dangers of using the Internet to associate with someone we do not know?
A number of Web sites have been designed for people to meet and correspond over the Internet. Many of these sites allow individuals to create and post their own profile, which may include pictures and other personal information. People who view the profile can then make contact. Such Web sites are very popular among young people, and some youths in the congregation have used them to interact with others who claim to be Jehovah’s Witnesses.
It is easy for a person whom we meet over the Internet to be deceptive about his identity, his spirituality, or his motives. (Ps. 26:4) An individual claiming to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses may actually be an unbeliever, a disfellowshipped person, or even an active apostate. (Gal. 2:4) Reportedly, many pedophiles use such Web sites to find their victims.
Even if we are convinced that those with whom we are corresponding are in good standing in the congregation, conversations in such a setting can easily drift toward unwholesome material. This is because people tend to be less inhibited with individuals they have not met personally. They may also view online communication as private and feel that whatever they say will not come to the attention of others, such as their parents or the elders. Sadly, a number of youths from Christian households have been ensnared and have become involved in obscene speech. (Eph. 5:3, 4; Col. 3:8) Others have included sexually provocative pictures of themselves, suggestive nicknames, or links to sexually explicit music videos in their computer profile.
In view of the foregoing, parents should monitor their children’s activity on the computer. (Prov. 29:15) It would be dangerous to invite a stranger into our home or to allow him to be alone with our children. Similarly, it is dangerous for us or our children to make friends with strangers over the Internet, even if they claim to be Jehovah’s Witnesses.—Prov. 22:3.
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An elder just wrote this on the "Prince" board...
by Tatiana init was in response to some things i and others posted about holidays, etc.
i don't know where he's an elder, but times have sure changed.
mimric i have never posted on this site but i have followed for 5yrs and i think its time because of this last post.
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sherah
Here's one on education.
*** w92 11/1 p. 20 pars. 17-18 Education With a Purpose ***
17 If Christian parents responsibly decide to provide their children with further education after high school, that is their prerogative. The period of these studies would vary according to the type of trade or occupation selected. For financial reasons and in order to enable their children to get into the full-time service as quickly as possible, many Christian parents have chosen for them short-term study programs in vocational or technical schools. In some cases youths have needed to be apprenticed to some trade but always with a full life of service to Jehovah as the goal.
18 If additional courses are taken, certainly the motive should not be to shine scholastically or to carve out a prestigious worldly career. Courses should be chosen with care. This magazine has placed emphasis on the dangers of higher learning, and justifiably so, for much higher education opposes the "healthful teaching" of the Bible. (Titus 2:1; 1 Timothy 6:20, 21) Further, since the 1960’s, many schools of advanced learning have become hotbeds of lawlessness and immorality. "The faithful and discreet slave" has strongly discouraged entering that kind of environment. (Matthew 24:12, 45) It must be admitted, however, that nowadays youngsters meet up with these same dangers in high schools and technical colleges and even in the workplace.--1 John 5:19. -
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Anyone Know JW's who Donated Inheritances, Estates,$$$ to WT Society ?
by flipper inif so - without divulging any names , approximately how much was donated to the wt society ?
if you are aware of approximate amounts.
as many know the wt society yearly puts out calls in their publications for witnesses to donate trust funds, wills, inheritances, estates, jewelry, cars and whatever else they have to promote the aleged " kingdom interests " in furthering the " good news " around the world.. personally i feel it's all been a scam to continue exercising control over witnesses by influencing them to financially deprive themselves so the wt society can continue it's operations.
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sherah
Many of the dubs in my area bequeath large sums of money to the WT in their will. Many years ago, a sister willed her home and her insurance policy to the local congregation when she died. If I remember correctly, the WT made the congregation sell the property ASAP. The money was used to renovate the KH (it was and still is a money-pit, large building expensive repairs, the just got the OK to sell the dump).
The biggest grab in my area is by the CO's in the form of the 'green hand-shake'. Everybody participates. The widow wanting attention, the ambitious MS, the Elder wanting to give CA/DA talks, the pioneer wanting a part on the program, the brother owning a business wanting to do some 'paid' work at the KH and the general brown-noser. It's sickening to watch all of this play out. The CO's just revel in the attention and don't discourage it.
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SBCheezits Judicial Hearing - My EPIC FAIL (REPOST for IE users)
by SweetBabyCheezits in(note: i apologize to the internet explorer users.
you probably can't see my first epic fail thread because i used firefox to post.
there's still some kind of glitch between a plugin i'm running, firefox posts, and ie.).
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sherah
Do as BetterDaze suggested...
"Tell them you took your iPhone to the police station and had it dusted for fingerprints. ..."
And THEN tell them that you asked the police to run those fingerprints through their sex-offenders' database...
Ziddina, I like your style!
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I was never DF'ed, I wasn't abused, I never lost a loved one to the ban on blood
by OnTheWayOut instrange title, huh?.
the point is that i wasn't "burned" in some incredible way by wts and i don't carry a huge chip on my shoulder from some incredible injustice from wts or the local elders.. i say this because some people have constantly accused me of being really screwed over by my experience because of my comments on others' threads.
i explained myself there for my reasons, but wanted to repeat what those reasons are here in my own thread.. i explained on some post somewhere that i had felt that i experienced "divine intervention" in my life at one time and that same intervention ended my suicide attempt.
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sherah
"Lack of love" in the congregation was the catalyst for me to examine WT teachings. I think it's a good if there is some action taken by the dub not feeling the warm christian love.