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  First post after a year or two of lurking on this site-Sorry for the length!

  by Pattytheperfect1 in

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  2. experiences

  not sure of the point of telling my story, but just got off the phone with my grandma and i am so angry, stressed and i don't know what else...i guess i just wanted to hear from someone other than my husband that i'm not crazy for my reaction to family interaction.. my condensed story gramatical errors and all :).

  father was a born in jw, mother was a convert.

  i was born the last of 3 siblings and shortly after my birth in 1981 my parents divorced.

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  Fernando

  Welcome Pattytheperfect1!

  Congratulations on standing up and saying this is wrong - calling them out on their hypocrisy.

  I believe what you are now (finally) doing will be very cathartic, empowering and healing for you:

  • openly telling it like it is;
  • insisting they quit abdicating responsibility;
  • insisting they stop rationalising the consequences of their appalling actions;
  • no more voiceless victim.

  They are very wrong.

  You are absolutely right.

  While the Watchtower does not care for scriptures in their own Bible that do not suit them, many here on JWN do:

  (Proverbs 17:15) . . .Anyone pronouncing the wicked one righteous and anyone pronouncing the righteous one wicked—even both of them are something detestable to Jehovah.

  Greetings

  Fernando

  PS - My wife's situation is very similar.
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  The Ray Franz Movie

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  been wanting to talk about this for a while... three years ago on this forum my friend cedars brought this up.

  let's do it!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sykaxxpyos.

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  Fernando

  What a fabulous idea, and brilliant suggestions.

  As above: do it already!
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  I need some moral advice?

  by trex2strike in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  okay, i like to hang out with these twelve other guys a lot, but recently one of them---i call him josh--(to help protect his identity) as started being a bit of a jerk.

  he just decided that he was the leader of the group, and i'm not 100% comfortable with that.

  and he expects us to treat him like he was god or something.

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  Fernando

  Had me fooled.
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  I'm a bit confused actually.

  by quellycatface in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not i like the "happy clappy" bits and pieces in church (c of e).

  it's just not me.

  the local school choir came in today and did 2 songs and one was a rap song about easter.... that's so not me.. i like serious but not hellfire preaching.. any ideas where to next?

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  Fernando

  How to Explain Simple Organic Church in 2 Minutes on a Napkin

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-147JgJ3ZJs
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  I'm a bit confused actually.

  by quellycatface in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not i like the "happy clappy" bits and pieces in church (c of e).

  it's just not me.

  the local school choir came in today and did 2 songs and one was a rap song about easter.... that's so not me.. i like serious but not hellfire preaching.. any ideas where to next?

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  Fernando

  Have you looked into house church or simple church?

  Every member functioning.

  Spiritually active, not passive.

  No hierarchy.

  No denominationalism.

  No sectarianism.

  http://www.site.house2house.com/about-h2h/welcome
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  drunken thread about my niece's JW wedding , my non jw sister and gay nephew impressions,

  by Miss.Fit in

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  Fernando

  Was your nephew a JW before?
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  Oh go on---ASK ME ANYTHING!

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any question .

  .. any topic .

  .what's the risk?.

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  Fernando

  Hey Terry, I've a feeling this is some sort of setup...

  A bit like writing to bethel imagining they'll answer...

  Anyways I'd happily take an answer from either or both of you:

  "What is it about the liberating, egalitarian and healing gospel message that the Watchtower fears so rabidly?"

  "Is it true that more than half the Bible's references to 'good news' are by Paul?"

  "Why are followers of the Watchtower so universally ignorant of the 'Good News' according to Paul (2 Cor 4:4)?"
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  The Good News of The Kingdom - Gods Plan for Salvation through the Ransom (Help Needed)

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when i first began studying in order to "make the truth my own", there were a set of scriptures that perplexed me and motivated me to dig deeper.. the scriptures are regarding the resurrection of the inhabitants of sodom & gomorrah.. see jesus words here - matthew 10:15 - "truly i say to you, it will be more endurable for the land of sodom and gomorrah on judgment day than for that city.

  " (ezekiel 16:48 / matthew 11:23 / matthew 11:24 / luke 10:12 ).

  any time that i brought these scriptures up to jw friends and family they would reply like this "jesus was speaking in hyperbole.. that is why he said it would be more endurable".. i would clarify and show them that it says "will be".

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  Fernando

  objectivetruth, I'm delighted for you, your journey, and your passion for the Good News.

  Greetings and blessings

  Fernando
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  In need of advice...

  by mobumpkin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi i am new here thank you for letting me join.

  i first of all want to say i am not here to bash the religion.

  there are good people in the congregation but also bad ones.

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  Fernando

  BTW in (Freudian and Jungian) Psychology there is a concept whereby we humans sometimes project the bad in ourselves onto others and then punish them for it.

  Presumably this happens when we have strong unresolved fear, shame or guilt.

  These feelings are often caused or used by religion (reframing our mistakes) as methods of control.

  Who knows...?

  Just putting it out there...
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  In need of advice...

  by mobumpkin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi i am new here thank you for letting me join.

  i first of all want to say i am not here to bash the religion.

  there are good people in the congregation but also bad ones.

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  Fernando

  Welcome mobumpkin!

  Sorry to hear about your sister.

  Religion often does bring out the very worst in some people, whilst by design also preventing them from seeing what they are or have become.

  Religion breeds hypocrisy (Matt 23).

  The liberating and healing gospel message on the other hand cultivates a more integrated, whole, humble, liberal and (mentally) healthy person.

  In my experience at least.