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  Religion vs the gospel

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  our family's journey out of the watchtower has led us to see the gospel as the antithesis or exact opposite of religion.. for us religion is men telling us what to believe and do (to control us).. for us the gospel is god telling us what he has done (to liberate us from such men).. how have you come to see the relationship between religion and the gospel?.

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  Fernando

  Most Christians are unfamiliar with the unabridged gospel.

  The same for most Jews who (should) know the gospel as "bissar".

  The same for most Muslims who (should) know the gospel as "injil"/"injeel".

  God has created the legal framework and precedents for our liberation.

  These are communicated through the comprehensive, unabridged and common gospel/bissar/injil/injeel message, hidden in plain sight throughout the common Judeo-Christian-Muslim scriptures.

  We are invited to accept on very generous terms, but religion, ignorance and busy-ness are powerful enemies.
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  Religion vs the gospel

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  our family's journey out of the watchtower has led us to see the gospel as the antithesis or exact opposite of religion.. for us religion is men telling us what to believe and do (to control us).. for us the gospel is god telling us what he has done (to liberate us from such men).. how have you come to see the relationship between religion and the gospel?.

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  Fernando

  Our family's journey out of the Watchtower has led us to see the gospel as the antithesis or exact opposite of religion.

  For us religion is men telling us what to believe and do (to control us).

  For us the gospel is God telling us what he has done (to liberate us from such men).

  How have you come to see the relationship between religion and the gospel?
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  "Religion is a snare and a racket" sandwich boards

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just thinking how ironic it would be if a new 'generation' (see what i did there??

  hehe), made up sandwich boards with.

  "religion is a snare and a racket".

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  Fernando

  I love simple yet powerful ideas like this.

  Their own words bite their own rear end.

  "religion is a snare

  and a racket"

  JWFacts.com
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  New Here and happy to have found you

  by flowerfreaks2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have been out officially for 5 1/2 years.

  i was the only one out of all my 4 other siblings that stayed with it.

  baptized at 16 and felt the need to carry on the heritage that my mom gave me to do.

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  Fernando

  A warm welcome flowerfreaks2.

  Your openness and honesty is refreshing.

  Isn't it wonderful how we can be our normal natural selves once we have dumped (the Watchtower) religion?

  And great news to hear that you and family are doing well.

  Greetings and best wishes to you all.

  Fernando

  SE QLD, Australia
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  is going to a strip club a disfellowshipping offense?

  by monis1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm pretty sure it is, just wanted to confirm.

  this would be someone who went once and only looked....

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  Fernando

  Definitely not if the person went there with the "right" people to promote the "right" religion using the "right" tools of trade.

  Interpretation: It's all good if the person was accompanied by Pharisees to promote the GB with Watchtower publications.
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  Ex-JW Scholarship

  by enigma1863 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think if there isnt one already, there should be a scholarship for ex-jws to get a college education.

  i dont know exactly what would be the qualifications to win the scholarship or where the money would come from..

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  Fernando

  It is a great idea, I believe.
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  Finally learned how to live the REAL real life

  by forest heathen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone suggested i post an introductory thread.

  i am a married, rather young grandma of four precious rugrats, ages 2-9. i guess our only child son and his only child wife didn't want their own kids to be "onlies".

  my other half and i married rather young (18 &22) and will be celebrating 31 years together this summer.. i am sort of add, keep thinking i am still 28, love my husband now more than ever, and am so glad i woke up and left the crazy cult.. my husband and i began studying months after marrying and then decided to take the dunk.

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  Fernando

  Welcome and congratulations forest heathen.
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  Just letting you know I passed the exam

  by will-be-apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi, my apostate friends.. a couple of weeks ago i asked for some advice regarding studying methods.

  then some of you asked me to let you know my score after i take the exam at mineralogy.. i scored 90%.

  i'm pretty happy with it because the exams i take are not in my native language.. if i keep up with the good scores i might get a scholarship and then bye bye watchtower society.

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  Fernando

  How very un-Watchtower like of you.

  Congratulations.
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  Lawrence Krauss

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  krauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist.

  hence his science is biased.

  being an antitheist means he's anti god.. anyone disagree?.

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  Fernando

  Hey snare

  My post was not saying that the foundational text itself explains the mysteries of science.

  The unabridged gospel message hidden in plain sight throughout this text has the power to liberate our minds from limiting forces (such as religion) which impede scientific pursuit, progress, development and discovery.
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  Lawrence Krauss

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  krauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist.

  hence his science is biased.

  being an antitheist means he's anti god.. anyone disagree?.

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  Fernando

  Kate, thank you for this thread.

  Can it really be wrong to explore by expressing viewpoints, asking questions, and starting or participating on a thread (conversation) if one is not yet an expert on the topic?

  One imagines JWN would die a quick death. Heaven forbid.

  I believe many of the laws of the universe have been designed to be autonomous and can be objectively studied without reference to the one who created science, the universe, order, consciousness, life and the laws which govern the universe.

  One is then free to take any view on a/the creator and his existence or non-existence.

  However, I believe, and have personally experienced, that one sees more, and learns quicker, when in harmony with the creator and his message.

  I have also experienced the very opposite when under the authority, power and control of religion, which I conclude is the common enemy of God and man.