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  How do BACs and JWs explain animals that practice "homosexual" activities?

  by booker-t in

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  i absolutely love watching the animal channel and just observing the animal kingdom has really brought up some serious questions for any devout anti-gay religions such as born-again christians(bacs) and jws.

  some animals such as deers practice lesbianism when there is no male deer around.

  i almost fell out of my chair when watching this.

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  Fernando

  BACs would vary widely in their views depending especially on whether they are SBNR or RBNS.

  For an aternative BAC perspective: http://biblehouseofgrace.com/same%20sex%20relationships.html
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  If the Bible stated "God created man in heaven and placed him in the garden".

  by jam in

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  what would think???

  later he sent eve to earth....

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  Fernando

  Personally I have come to believe in "one hope" which includes access to all the 11 dimensions in Hyperspace which Physicists like Michio Kaku are telling us about, and which he also relates to the Kardashev scale, in his books "Physics of the Future" and "Hyperspace".
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  The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

  what do you think..

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  Fernando

  The Watchtower is right - their religion is a snare and a racket, and should be prosecuted under the RICO Act.
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  Are JEhovah's Witnesses reaching out to the Gay community ?

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  apostate & ex-jehovalarious meme collection.

  https://www.facebook.com/groups/jwmeme/.

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  Fernando

  Watchtower-Free, it seems from this post that the quality of your work fools even exJWs.

  I wonder what would happen if it got into the wrong I mean right hands...
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  will the jw logo become a flag?

  by losingit in

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  2. friends

  with the unveiling of the new jw logo, and all of the emphasis placed on it , will the borg dare to put it on a flag?

  i hope they do!

  imagine all whom would wake up with such an act!

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  Fernando

  Surely some pretend sycophant somewhere can sell this lovely idea to the GB...
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  Your "Things That Make You Go Hmmm?" List

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  i'll wager that the number is close to 100 percent.

  what number?

  the number of jws who have lists--lists of things that make them go hmmm or even wha'???

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  Fernando

  Wow that was very revealing and cathartic - I didn't realise just how long the list was before the tipping point was reached - ouch - and thank you for a great thread FHN.

  I had also managed to forget that their was so much darkness and error I was aware of even prior to the lights coming on fully.

  Very interesting and potentially useful concept for helping loved ones. I believe you are right about 100% (of JWs having such a hidden or secret list).
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  Your "Things That Make You Go Hmmm?" List

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  i'll wager that the number is close to 100 percent.

  what number?

  the number of jws who have lists--lists of things that make them go hmmm or even wha'???

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  Fernando

  From oldest to most recent (all own personal observations - not influenced by outside sources):

  1. The generation teaching
  2. Un-theocratic elders
  3. Self-willed elders
  4. Elder fiefdoms
  5. Older but still very immature elders
  6. Cover-ups (rape, incest, fraud, slander - all in my own extended family)
  7. Blood doctrine (OK to use parts of donated blood, but not OK to donate)
  8. Irrational fear of df'd persons
  9. Incompetence of elders, especially in dealing with real problems
  10. Blatant translation errors to support wt dogma
  11. Ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy in the wt org, plus the creation, exploitation and oppression of a "laity class" of "dumb sheeple"
  12. Incongruence - CO: "if it is not in harmony with divine teaching it is teaching of demons" versus elderette: "it is better to be wrong with the society than right on your own" (meaning that it is better to eat at the table of demons with the society than at God's table on your own)
  13. Inconsistencies and errors especially between the usage/application and definition of key terms: prophet, prophecy, apostasy, the gospel, faith
  14. Confusing and conflating "belief" with "faith"
  15. Organised theft of spirituality and faith
  16. Spurious and unbiblical terms: faithS and gospelS
  17. Spiritual blindness, confusion, inebriation, and insanity of elders
  18. Literal 144,000
  19. Jesus is not our mediator
  20. Never once in the NT does the term "the anointed" refer to humans, but is always correctly translated as "ho Kristos" or "the Christ" even in the badly mangled NWT.
  21. FDS = human clergy class = the anointed = represented by GB (but GB actually ignores them)
  22. WBTS Organisation, GB (Sanhedrin) and Elders (Pharisees) as pseudo-mediators or VISIBLE golden calf
  23. Wt "two hopes" versus Bible's "one hope" (spurious and unbiblical two class system of believers)
  24. The opposite trajectories of the gospel in print in the wt library, and the gospel as actually taught and believed as reflected by what is actually in the hearts and on the lips of wt followers
  25. The opposite trajectories of "religion" and the "gospel"
  26. Elder's ignorance of, fear of, and contempt for, the liberating gospel of grace - the tipping point and last straw (especially the denial of "imputed righteousness" and "imputed holiness")
  27. Wt revisionist cover-up of previous teaching that all religion is a snare and a racket
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  inactive ones going back...

  by monis1 in

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  i have quite a big group of friends who were all in the cong together when we were teens.

  about 75% of them stopped going or were df'd right after high school.

  it is a varied group; a couple are staunch apostates, some dont care one way or another, and another handfull are fully "worldly", but still believe it is the truth.

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  Fernando

  Totally cured and innoculated against my former addiction to the Supremacist Apostate Doomsday Cult and its inane apostate ruling religious clergy class...
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  Has anybody meet anyone on here who they knew as a JW. Experiences please

  by joe134cd in

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  2. bible

  i'm just curious but has anybody meet some one on jehovahwitness-net who they knew in their jw lives.

  just want to hear experiences.

  please include the indicators that led up to you identifying each other, and how you eventually revealed yourself.

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  Fernando

  Only one, because this person does not post anonymously.

  I'm sure there are more, but will likely only find out if and when I post with my photo, name, and/or congregation list (or if they do the same).

  This is of course a great time to thank the many persons who like Paul Grundy model a way in which we can be totally open despite the consequences. Now if we all did that...
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  Do you think that the Jehovahs Witness religion would be better /worse if their were an equal number of male/female on the G.B.?

  by smiddy in

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  of course this is a hypothetical question , it will never happen .?

  but what if it did , what do you think the society would be like if it did happen .?.

  let your imaginations run wild .

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  Fernando

  Personally I believe women should not allow themselves to be compromised and denigrated by becoming part of the apostate ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy.