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  What is the basis for authority for the governing body?

  by Half banana in

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  2. beliefs

  a word to jehovahs witnesses: what is the basis for the authority the seven members of the governing body can claim in controlling the lives of eight million followers?

  the organisation they represent has never got one useful piece of information correct in one hundred and thirty five years... so why should they be believed?.

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  Fernando

  JW: Because they say so.
  

  RC: What about the Pope and college of Cardinals?

  JW: They're lying... Our clericalism and magisterium is from God himself.
  
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  I Haven't Missed a Meeting in Years!

  by Oubliette in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i recently ran into a jw i knew from a few years back.you know how it goes, a few pleasantries that always seem much more awkward than they really should (not for me, mind you--for him).and then the question, "so what congregation are you attending?

  are you able to make the meetings?

  "i'm thinking: do you always start conversations this way?so anyways, knowing full well the jw-mindset, i decided to have a bit of fun.furrowing my brow, i said, "that's an odd question!

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  Fernando

  I haven't missed a single meeting in almost 6 years!

  It seems the further away from the Watchtower we all get, the smarter we all get.
  

  Or maybe it's JWC's fault.
  
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  The Opal Ring: a story based on the true life of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's finally finished!

  it's a fictional story about an old jw.

  it is very long, about 7000 words.. the opal ring.

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  Fernando

  It can be a real challenge to put the realities of Watchtowerdom into words. You've done a brilliant job.
  
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  The Opal Ring: a story based on the true life of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's finally finished!

  it's a fictional story about an old jw.

  it is very long, about 7000 words.. the opal ring.

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  Fernando

  Great talent, story and insider insights made accessible to outsiders. Wonderful.
  
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  Fading and not "outing" yourself, what are your thoughts on it?

  by Brock Talon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  fading and not "outing" yourself.. what are your thoughts on it?.

  i ask, because i just received a scathing personal message on facebook from a person who read my latest book and in it i describe myself as a fader.

  i was not dfd and i did not da myself.

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  Fernando

  Pretty much what others have said.

  Brock, did you consider that when sometimes when someone reacts badly, the problem could be entirely their own?

  Maybe his attack was driven by deep-seated fear, and he feels threatened by the possibility of realities he is not equipped to deal with.
  
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  Rethinking "this world", "the world", and "worldly"

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if all religion is a snare and a racket as per judge rutherford, then has religion maybe lied to us on this score too?.

  could jesus have meant: "if you belonged to the (religious) world, it would love you as its own.

  as it is, you do not belong to the (religious) world, but i have chosen you out of the (religious) world.

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  Fernando

  Thanks for sharing Perry.

  I had the same sense, just not the words.
  
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  How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

  by JWCartPusher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

  please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

  i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

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  I notice JWCartPusher only joined JWC 8 days ago.
  

  Personally I don't mind that he doesn't have a PhD in communication, research methods and statistics, and would encourage him to have a blast on the new and exciting journey of discovery, thinking, reasoning, questioning and learning...

  B.T.W. a warm welcome JWCartPusher. JWC is a great place to learn new skills, develop new insights, and possibly even make a few friends. Even the atheists are a pretty decent bunch by and large...
  
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  How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

  by JWCartPusher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

  please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

  i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

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  Fernando

  Count me as a believer and simple Jesus follower.

  I hold my identity as a Christian/Jew/Muslim rather lightly since I see these too as redundant sectarian divisions.

  (Abraham was not a Christian, Jew or Muslim. Galatians 3 especially verses 7, 28 and 29.)

  I am delighted with my level of faith and spirituality post Watchtower.
  

  Like millions of others, it was the powerfully liberating gospel of grace which set me free from my addiction to (sectarian) religion (and the Watchtower).

  Oddly enough the journey to the exit began and ended solely in the Watchtower's own publications. Yes, I was that loyal and addicted to the apostate and idolatrous VISIBLE golden calf (pseudo mediator).
  
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  I'm Ready... Thank you

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys,.

  so, something amazing happened recently.

  i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.

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  Fernando

  Personally I needed to formally cut spiritual ties with the toxic and apostate ruling religious clergy class (Pharisees).

  The resulting freedom has led to a breathtaking journey and great heights I may not otherwise have been able to reach.

  I also enjoy not having to look over my shoulder, and having them run away from me instead.
  
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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  The great divergence between what is written and what is taught on the gospel (of grace) did it for me. (2 Cor 4:4)
  

  It seems law (or legalism) vs grace was the big "scandal" that broke out in Bethel in the early 1980's.

  It seems Ray may actually have left discreetly a few good articles on this behind in the Watchtower's publications.