"The 5 pillars of faith"?
The irony of it all.
The Watchtower has no idea what "faith" is, yet somehow manages to steal it from their followers.
Fernando
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The "5 Pillars" of Witness life...
by stuckinarut2 inoh, there is one brother that keeps prattling on about "the 5 pillars of faith and worship".
- prayer.
- personal study.
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Fernando
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Age of "governing body" members
by MacHislopp incarey barber ..................b 1905. lyman swingle.................b 1910. albert schroeder.............. b 1911. john barr ..................... b 1913. daniel sydlik...................b 1919. milton henschel ...............b 1920. theodore jaracz...............b 1924. and.
guy pierce .....................b 1934 (b.
1 year before end of h.c.)*.
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Supernatural Tony......the 3rd
by snare&racket ini realised something today.... we all happily accepted something really ridiculous.....something that if worded how i will word it now, we would have rejected as ridiculous, but after a moments thought, would have to concede.. we once followed the governing body because we believed they had supernatural powers.
how ridiculous you may say, no we didn't!
of or relating to things that cannot be explained according to natural laws.
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Fernando
Around 1988 an "elder" did a pilgrimage to Mecca, I mean Brooklyn Bethel, and like so many other pilgrims was awestruck by supposedly divine GB pronouncements.
You'll like the one he came home with.
Anyone under the age of 60 claiming to be one of the anointed was mentally unstable or ill.
Namely every one of today's GB???
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What does GOD want from his human creatures?
by B4Right inin wtbs world it's "be jehovah's friend"- it's "don't do anything to damage your relationships age my relationship with jehovah" !!
when you look at all the human relationships between god and jesus everyone was "chosen"!!
in the law of moses was there anything that told individuals to have their own relationship with god?
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Fernando
LOL Brokeback Watchtower.
No chapter and verse? It's a short book then?
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What does GOD want from his human creatures?
by B4Right inin wtbs world it's "be jehovah's friend"- it's "don't do anything to damage your relationships age my relationship with jehovah" !!
when you look at all the human relationships between god and jesus everyone was "chosen"!!
in the law of moses was there anything that told individuals to have their own relationship with god?
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Fernando
Having experienced a radical personal change of heart toward God and man as a result of receiving imputed righteousness as a free gift, I have come to conclude that all God wants is for us to accept this and other free gifts.
This is what the liberating unabridged gospel message is all about.
Even salvation (eternal life) is a free gift which cannot be sold, earned, deserved or paid for.
No wonder the Watchtower surreptitiously hates, fears and obfuscates this message above all else.
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Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
by Rufus T. Firefly ini hope this link works for everyone.
if you can watch this video, i think you will find it very interesting how closely scientology resembles the watchtower society.
for example, the watchtower's 'apostates' equate to scientology's 'suppressives.
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Fernando
It seems on Sun 29 Mar 2015 the movie "Going Clear: Scientology and the prison of belief" starts showing on HBO in the USA:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4257858/
A search on JWC reveals it may be based on, or inspired by, an earlier book by the name "Going Clear":
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BBC debate on Apostasy within Islam - the parallels are striking!
by nicolaou indo british muslims have a problem with apostasy?.
not sure if the link above will auto embed as i'm posting from my tablet, if not just click through.. i think this format is useless for any meaningful or constructive debate.
it's almost designed to get sunday morning viewers sputtering over their coffee but still .
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Fernando
I'm sure this video could be of use in some instances.
It comes across as a useful caricature of Watchtower land (which interestingly practices virtual FGM by effectively banning everything but a penis used in the missionary position).
It would have to be a particularly obtuse or obstinate JW that is totally unmoved and blind to the many parallels.
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BBC debate on Apostasy within Islam - the parallels are striking!
by nicolaou indo british muslims have a problem with apostasy?.
not sure if the link above will auto embed as i'm posting from my tablet, if not just click through.. i think this format is useless for any meaningful or constructive debate.
it's almost designed to get sunday morning viewers sputtering over their coffee but still .
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The Jehovah's Witnesses a Pretentious Commercialized False Prophet, Yes or No ?
by Finkelstein indoing some reflective research onto the jws and even further back to the ibsa, there is a lot of obtainable information about these organizations and the people who headed up these adjoined organizations.
i myself found many bits of information that were left blank, missing pieces that i may have assumed on speculation but upon reviewing those bits of information actually reconfirmed of what i had originally thought.
most of that involves the pressing agenda of the wts to proliferate its publications by using dubiously concocted but nevertheless alluring doctrines to promote literature which the organization and its head editorial writers devised on their own.
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Fernando
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If someone asked you, 'Are you a righteous person'? What would be your answer?
by Esse quam videri inwhat would be your answer?
are you are a righteous person?
on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.
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Fernando
Ucantnome, one supposes the clergy class might rationalise their existence with Eph 4:11.
However we know Jesus espoused servant leadership. Not the type of authoritarian dictator "servant" that exists in the Watchtower.
Therefore a genuine teacher and shepherd appointed not by man but by God would seek to serve rather than control, dominate, direct, or rule above and over.
Seeing as there is "one hope" we are all brothers albeit with different gifts that can be used to serve others.