Posts by Fernando

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Feel like a new fire has been lit

by The_Doctor10 in

i've spent the last 6 months or so really in depth into ttatt, really angry at times, cursing the cult that is the wts led by the fds, and today i feel like i've found a new fire.

i'd been completely opposed to listening to anything to do with the organization, but today i watched the brie video on youtube, young high school girl pouring her heart out in opposition of the wts and its practices.. from there, i found jwstruggle on youtube, johncedars, and derekohare... it's just a wonderful thing finding people willing to out the wts for what it is.

i had felt such anger, like, they're getting away with their bologna, but to see people like this making stands against the wts is an amazing source of hope.. besides forums such as this, what have you found that helped you?.

Fernando

Our family's exit from the cult began the same place it did for Ray Franz and friends, namely the liberating Good News or gospel according to Paul in the book of Romans (as contrasted with Watchtower religious legalism and moralism).

Initially as Watchtower loyalists we scoured only the Watchtower library for any morsel we could find. We soon noticed a growing divergence between what we were learning and what is taught in practice.

The clincher was when the elders (Pharisees) threatened us with dire consequences if we said anything in the slightest to anyone about the Good News. Questions were also expressly forbidden.

We did go through distinct phases common to those exiting cults - including intense shock, anger and grief.

Now we are free, much happier, and on much more solid ground.

We now identify as SBNR (Spiritual But Not Religious) believers and persons who have been granted the free gifts of faith, salvation, and a right and clean standing (by imputation) with our Creator.

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Organised Crime

by Dominic in

i am not greatly familiar with the belief of jehovah's witness but am learning more through a school project.

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what is the jehovah's witness view on organised crime?

Fernando

Hypocritical, in a word.

Look up RICO.

The Watchtower used to teach that ALL religion is a snare and a racket.

Then they became a religion (in 1950).

PM me if you want references/material.

Greetings

Fernando

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I had sex with my wife but now he’s my brother.

by John Aquila in

golden age 1930 apr 2 p.446.

question: will husband and wife live together after the resurrection is completed, if both are in harmony with god?.

the most that we know is that here will be no children born during the last 100 years of the millinnium (isa.

Fernando

How deep and far do the roots of Watchtower ignorance and blindness really run?

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My "Leaving" Letter

by lambsbottom in

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friends

through what i have learned from reading bro.

russell's writings about the ransom for all, coupled with the blood issue, i feel the need to let my friends know that i am making a stand for truth.

i could have lost my wife to the blood issue during pregnancy.

Fernando

It probably depends on your objectives, including keeping a clean conscience, and how you view the inevitable shunning by all.

I do like The Searcher's suggestions.

And I like your letter too: short, simple, positive.

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Coping With Atheism (Long-ish Post...sorry!)

by humblepotato in

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friends

long time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.

first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.

all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.

Fernando

A belated welcome humblepotato

What FayeDunaway said on page 1.

Greetings

Fernando

SEQ, Australia

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A Toast to All the Brave Kids Who Broke Up with Their Toxic Moms

by rebel8 in

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friends

sometimes holidays can be hard on us.

some of us deserve a little toast today.. a toast to all the brave kids who broke up with their toxic moms.

Fernando

I toast and salute my wife, who has been through a lot, for choosing a life free of her Watchtower idolising mother's unmentionable and relentless toxicity, destructiveness and negativity.

We are very happy that we have been able to break with several generations of Watchtower idolatry driven evil, on both sides, and give our kids a legacy of love and life instead.

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

Fernando

RoyalFlushPhil: "Fernando do you know how many of us here believe in God and are trying to search for answers we never got through the Watchtower".

I suspect quite a few RoyalFlushPhil.

I'm certainly one, and enjoying the journey too, whilst facing the usual challenges all humans have to deal with.

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

Fernando

Welcome Miss Behaving, and thank you for sharing part of your story.

When you are ready, we'd like to know more, but only what you're comfortable sharing at this stage.

You might want to start a new thread.

And you write and express yourself well - don't hold back, even if you're still figuring things out. That is what this community is about.

Best wishes

Fernando

SEQ, Australia

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

Fernando

Brother Jeramy, it just came to mind that you could one day be the Watchtower's Staupitz...

He got poor old Martin Luther straight thereby saving him from himself and unleashing one of the greatest forces of the first reformation...

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

Fernando

Hey brother Jeramy

You make some very good, rational and well considered points.

I do apologise for those instances you have noted in the first four paragraphs of your post above.

It seems to me you are on a journey just like the rest of us.

It also seems to me that you are at a relatively good point on this journey.

We should be able to find it in our hearts to support and encourage each other as we try to make sense of present and past abuse and deception.

If you choose to focus on the Good News (or gospel) according to Paul (and others such as Moses, Isaiah, and Psalms), and if you pursue it relentlessly, you will be truly amazed at where the breathtaking journey takes you.

Greetings and blessings

Fernando

SEQ, Australia