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  Hypothetical Memo to the G.B. From the Writing Committee

  by The Searcher in

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  dear glorious ones, we feel certain that our statement in the february 2017 watchtower - "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

  therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction" - will assuredly save each one of you from taking a bullet this year when the australian royal commission and the u.k. charities commission's findings are made public and inflict punitive measures on the organization for its historical failure to weed out pedophile and to protect children.

  if the minions are challenged, they now have a ready-made conversation stopper and can show it to dissenters on their electronic devices.

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  I suspect that some elements of the above are more reality than hypothetical...

  Especially "groveling and sycophancy".
  
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  Numbers don't lie... and these numbers are beautiful!!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  the numbers don't lie... definitely slowing down!!.

  in the 40´s the average growth per year was 20%in the 50´s it was about 10%they had four decades of solid 5% per yearnow the average for the past 16 years has been 2%.

  maybe in the future it will be 1% or 0 or even negative????.

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  theocratic "CPR"

  lol sparrowdown
  
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  Whats going on with the 144000 thing? Spiritual people in the org...

  by megaboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  kind of a two fold question, use to have discussions with witnesses about the 144000 and how i didnt agree with it being spiritual because tribes are defined, also mentioned that early on in revelations that a measurement was given for gentiles and i explained that i belived that that was basically foundating that the prophecies proceeding would have nothing to do with gentiles as in they are not measured in these concerns.

  never did get any decent reasoning from them on that.. but i haven't heard about that doctrine in a while or online.

  granted there are a lot more messed up stuff they teach but these things gave me the impression that it would effect the org if anyone could claim to be of the 144000. are these people suppose to be spiritual?

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  "one hope"

  "one flock"
  
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  Isn’t teaching of grace (undeserved kindness) a great apostasy?

  by anointed1 in

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  2. beliefs

  in the old testament the basic teaching is that no sin would go unpunished.

  suddenly, it takes an opposite turn in the new testament where grace is shown as flowing through jesus to sinners who put faith in the sacrificial death of jesus.

  interestingly, new testament writers admit that both the teachings are in opposition to each other.

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  Jesus rebuke of the Pharisees' meticulous lawmaking and law-keeping shows they had missed the purpose of the Old Testament - shining a light on the human condition and the need for a saviour.
  
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  Isn’t teaching of grace (undeserved kindness) a great apostasy?

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
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  in the old testament the basic teaching is that no sin would go unpunished.

  suddenly, it takes an opposite turn in the new testament where grace is shown as flowing through jesus to sinners who put faith in the sacrificial death of jesus.

  interestingly, new testament writers admit that both the teachings are in opposition to each other.

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  Google search - grace in the old testament
  
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  Girls are unpredictable, materialist, and use us, men, as a toy - Part 2

  by will-be-apostate in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  well here am i, a couple of years passed since my original post (link here), somewhat less mysoginistic, more open to relationships, heartbroken again.

  this is an official "fuck my life" thread.. being chased by the elders makes one arrive at the conclusion that there is nothing better than not being chased by the elders.

  i had a pre-jc meeting a week ago.

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  Best wishes mate!
  
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  A Question about Spiritistic Books

  by schnell in

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  i have a nearly academic interest in the occult, though i am not a spiritualist and remain a skeptic.

  i've come to learn that demons are based on everything from dust devils in the desert, to diseases, to actual people.

  probably most of all, demons are a tool of good ol' fashioned con artists and fear mongers.. but here's a question.

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  Fernando

  The closest I have come is to witness the 180 degree turnaround in someone after they had an encounter in a jail cell.

  He refused to speak. Word was that he was pressed to the concrete ceiling whilst in his bed.

  At any rate he was a very changed person afterward.
  
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  Which bible translation do you think is best and most acurate?

  by NikL in

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  for those that still care to read the bible of course.

  those that don't, please keep the snarky comments to yourselves :-).

  i am assuming nwt is not very popular?.

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  The Bible has been used to fuel good and bad outcomes.

  It seems bad outcomes tend to come from trying to follow the letter.

  And it seems good outcomes tend to come from following the spirit.

  "He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life." (2 Cor 3:6, NIV)

  The Pharisees esteemed scripture (the letter) but hated and killed God's word (or message, which became flesh).
  
  
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  here i am

  by notalone in

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  2. experiences

  i was a 4th gen born in.my adult children were the 5th.

  my mother was one of the newly'anointed' we have all left.

  i have been lurking since october.i was really too terrified someone would find out who i was and what would happen.well we are out now so here is a part of my story.

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  Fernando

  A belated warm welcome to you notalone.

  Thank you for sharing your story and congratulations for standing up for your daughter when the "trustworthy" ruling religious clergy class proved how deeply cowardly they are.

  Our family's awakening process also started with cover-ups.
  

  Greetings and blessings

  Fernando

  (A SBNR - Spiritual But Not Religious believer, Queensland, Australia)
  
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  Mexico branch......Now closing!!!

  by krismalone in

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  2. current

  a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.

  i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!

  this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.

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  Fernando

  Time to ramp up the court cases against this narcissistic pedophile paradise and make them pay until they vapourise...