How do yall feel about this video? I'm sure it's been posted before...but I really enjoyed it, would love to share with some of my family (some day)
What are yall thoughts on it??
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7529203252348464576#
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Jehovah's Witnesses Exposed Video
by tryingtoexit inhow do yall feel about this video?
i'm sure it's been posted before...but i really enjoyed it, would love to share with some of my family (some day).
what are yall thoughts on it??.
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Circuit Assembly This Past Weekend "Safeguard Your Spirituality" -Everyone Please Enter-
by tryingtoexit inso we had our circuit assembly this past weekend, and it was the first one in my life that i told my wife i would not be attending.
we had a brief conversation on why, and she said well just go to this last one with me, and then when we can discuss what we learn and compare it to why you've been expressing your "new" feelings towards the wts.. i love my wife, and as much as i thought i was gonna hate it i decided to go.
now that i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness it really didnt bother me that nobody hardly talked to me despite me living in this same area for 4 1/2 years, everybody views me as spiritually weak because i dont go out in service, rarely attend meetings, dont comment, lesson is never underlined, so the "friends" never interact with me anyway and i'm use to it, actually that's the way i prefer it.
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GL Tirebiter- Thanks for your encouragment, preciate it, yup I've been preparing for the worse, because I'm almost positive which way she's going to go, living arrangements I have backup plans for, but I'm still working out the attorney situation, my aunt is a great legal attorney, but also a JW so....*sigh*....hopefully I'll be prepared either way, thanks again.
cheerios- I literally LOL when I read that, hahahahaha! Yeah Charles Taze Russel would definitely be a fan of the Freemasons page and probably the "negro is inferior" group as well. (just jokes)
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Circuit Assembly This Past Weekend "Safeguard Your Spirituality" -Everyone Please Enter-
by tryingtoexit inso we had our circuit assembly this past weekend, and it was the first one in my life that i told my wife i would not be attending.
we had a brief conversation on why, and she said well just go to this last one with me, and then when we can discuss what we learn and compare it to why you've been expressing your "new" feelings towards the wts.. i love my wife, and as much as i thought i was gonna hate it i decided to go.
now that i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness it really didnt bother me that nobody hardly talked to me despite me living in this same area for 4 1/2 years, everybody views me as spiritually weak because i dont go out in service, rarely attend meetings, dont comment, lesson is never underlined, so the "friends" never interact with me anyway and i'm use to it, actually that's the way i prefer it.
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VM44- That's very interesting there....
chickpea- Thanks!
Flipper- Preciate ya, yeah the control is outrageous, never thought something I accepted my whole life could make my stomach turn now when I hear their rhetoric.
moshe- Great idea, I would love to try that, anything to get us both out, I hope I can pull it off, it just seems so hard you know?
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Circuit Assembly This Past Weekend "Safeguard Your Spirituality" -Everyone Please Enter-
by tryingtoexit inso we had our circuit assembly this past weekend, and it was the first one in my life that i told my wife i would not be attending.
we had a brief conversation on why, and she said well just go to this last one with me, and then when we can discuss what we learn and compare it to why you've been expressing your "new" feelings towards the wts.. i love my wife, and as much as i thought i was gonna hate it i decided to go.
now that i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness it really didnt bother me that nobody hardly talked to me despite me living in this same area for 4 1/2 years, everybody views me as spiritually weak because i dont go out in service, rarely attend meetings, dont comment, lesson is never underlined, so the "friends" never interact with me anyway and i'm use to it, actually that's the way i prefer it.
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twinkle toes- That sums up all the witnesses I know on Facebook pretty much, thats why the Society says it's a no no.
drobbins88- Thank you, preciate that.
Saoirse- Thanks, I will most definitely stand my ground, my wifes cousin was announced DF'd tonight, she came home crying and said her cousin put a picture of me, my wife, her, and her new husband on her windshield, and after the meeting when she saw it, she just broke down and cried. I wanted to share some info with her about the origins of disfellowshipping, but I knew tonight was not the right time, I wanna make sure I play it right, but yeah be glad you didnt have to sit through that, I'm gonna live it up this weekend, cause the hours I lost last weekend I will never get back.
Gayle- You're right, I honestly wanna know does the governing body really think they are God's chosen voice to the world, or do they laugh at night before they go to bed, knowing they've duped millions into believing them??
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Circuit Assembly This Past Weekend "Safeguard Your Spirituality" -Everyone Please Enter-
by tryingtoexit inso we had our circuit assembly this past weekend, and it was the first one in my life that i told my wife i would not be attending.
we had a brief conversation on why, and she said well just go to this last one with me, and then when we can discuss what we learn and compare it to why you've been expressing your "new" feelings towards the wts.. i love my wife, and as much as i thought i was gonna hate it i decided to go.
now that i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness it really didnt bother me that nobody hardly talked to me despite me living in this same area for 4 1/2 years, everybody views me as spiritually weak because i dont go out in service, rarely attend meetings, dont comment, lesson is never underlined, so the "friends" never interact with me anyway and i'm use to it, actually that's the way i prefer it.
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Yet they're not a cult right? lol
All the evidence is right in front of their faces
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Circuit Assembly This Past Weekend "Safeguard Your Spirituality" -Everyone Please Enter-
by tryingtoexit inso we had our circuit assembly this past weekend, and it was the first one in my life that i told my wife i would not be attending.
we had a brief conversation on why, and she said well just go to this last one with me, and then when we can discuss what we learn and compare it to why you've been expressing your "new" feelings towards the wts.. i love my wife, and as much as i thought i was gonna hate it i decided to go.
now that i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness it really didnt bother me that nobody hardly talked to me despite me living in this same area for 4 1/2 years, everybody views me as spiritually weak because i dont go out in service, rarely attend meetings, dont comment, lesson is never underlined, so the "friends" never interact with me anyway and i'm use to it, actually that's the way i prefer it.
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First of all I just wanna say much love to everybody who came by to share their thoughts and make me feel better, this means alot, it feels good to read your comments and know that I have support.
jookbeard- Yeah those C.O.'s are something else, some think they are celebrities, I'm a very observant type of dude, I watch/listen first then speak, the C.O. last month told my elders that I carry myself "like I'm too cool" I'm like what? I'm laid back by nature, I always put things in perspective, I cant help it, it's my personality, he took as me trying to be extra cool or whatever.
WuzLovesDubs- Wow. That's right, that's what they do, take your family away if you dont give up your freedom, the way you summed it up gave me chills, it hurts my heart to know I'm still connected to this cult.
finding my way- Thanks for those words, yeah I don't wanna leave her, I'm just prepared for the worst, you know a wise man always has a plan. I plan on helping my wife out, but if she doesnt want to leave, I will support her, I want our marriage to work, but knowing the type of woman she is, and she already will do what her mother, brother, other relatives want over me, I know she can easily want me out of here and I'll be stuck with no home, cause I will not make a scene or want any drama in my life. I can peacefully make my exit if it calls for that, but I'm gonna give it my best to make it work first and foremost. The whole bad association thing is dumb, I've heard a 16 year old sister tell my wife a couple weeks ago, "Why would I have a Facebook page when the brothers say not too, those that have them arent obeying God" And I'm thinking....what sense does that make??? Those are the people that eat up everything that comes from the governing body and they carry themselves like they're better than everybody else, give long comments, and are too "obedient" to let a person who is slighty not as strong as they are associate with them. JW's are cyborgs to me, I'm convinced.
rocketman- yeah good for you, I hope I can be in your shoes one day.
minimus- LOL! That doesnt offend me at all, hey....even the elders at the hall have a nickname for me, they call me "Survivor", when I was regular at the meetings last year, they would always come up to me and say "He's a survivorrrrrrr!! How's it going man, you still alive?" They would joke because they knew what kind of personality my wife has, very opinionated, very strong minded, her presence intimidates people alone, but nonetheless I love her and I'm going to be good on my end, if we fail, it will be her fault, not mine.
twinkle toes- Thanks, yeah I hate that, the whole assembly preached "Self-Examination, you can not examine your own heart if pride is in the way" I'm thinking how are you so concerned with me. When just 2 weeks ago, she got so drunk, she passed out on our living room floor and was covered in throw up, she threw up off and on for 2 hours! She turned aggressive, wouldnt let me pick her up, she punched me in the face a few times, then slept for like 10 hours and didnt remember any of it the next day. All she kept saying was "please dont call the brothers on me, I wont drink that much again". I'm thinking to myself at that assembly like "the nerve of you to be pointing the finger at me". Marriage is no joke, I'm doing my best though. And I know at my parents circuit assembly in 2007, they said myspace was a place no Witness should be, and that kids were getting caught by setting up parties through myspace and having sex, so when they mentioned "ALL SOCIAL NETWORKING WEBSITES".....everybody knew they meant everything pretty much.
babygirl- That double standard is crazy, my best friend was a baptised witness, but now he's a gay man and he's engaged to his boyfriend, and my mother will treat him like a son, because he stopped going to the meetings, he never got disfellowshipped, so she says as long as he's not DF'd, he's welcome in her home, but my aunt, her sister, she wont even talk to her on the phone about matters concerning my grandparents because she is DF'd. Sad to say even my family fits the bill of judgemental witnesses that can drive you crazy.
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JW's Defend 607 BCE Teaching!
by tryingtoexit inmy father (who's an elder) just sent me this link...and i'd like to get yall opinions on it before i call him back:.
apostates and other opposers argue that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce, but in 587 bce, and provide what they claim is archaeological evidence to support this.
if 607 bce is wrong, then the seven times prophecy ending in 1914 ce would be wrong also.. .
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bobld- thanks I'll be checking that book out sometime this week.
VM44- Tell me more if you can
besty- Thanks! I like that, nice lil presentation of evidence there for me to use, lol, I cant wait to reveal the "facts", not opinions but facts.
distazo- Elaborate more if you can, I'm interested in what you stated
Stephen- Props as always, yeah I've read those scriptures with my wife and my father before, as well as the ones where the apostles couldnt see Jesus until their eyes were opened, I think it's quite ridiculous as well to call Jesus a spirit CREATURE just because on a few occasions they didnt recognize him right away.
avishai- Yeah that was a great thread, lots of classic information in there.
MissingLink- Right. They'll do anything to make those dates work, yet when you bring up the resurrection of ancient prophets in 1925, they just say well the light got brighter. What were they basing that stuff on in the first place???
digderidoo- Exxxxxactly
Lady Liberty- Wow! That's crazy, see I cant stomach that type of mess right in front of my face, but yeah anything that agrees with "their" viewpoint they jump all over, I'm 100% witnesses dont even cross examine evidence to see if it really supports their beliefs, long as it does they dont need to check and see if it's right. The same as say you need a certain appliance for a specific need in your home, so you start to shop online, you're not going to buy the first one you see that you need. You're going to read up on it, check out the reviews from people that have already tried it, compare it to other ones, as well as try to find one cheaper. Witnesses dont seem to do that kind of homework, just "ohh I found a website that supports 607 BCE, let me copy and paste it" LOL! Without even reading it thoroughly, retardedness...
isaacaustin- I think thats what my dad will say, well back then they were wrong about a lot of things, but at least they're humble enough to admit it. The problem is they still teach the very things that people in and outside the org. know is false, crazy. And you're right, if historians are wrong they simply correct it, whether it be fossil evidence, whatever, they always fix their mistakes or update them, but the WTS, nope, they just say "We're going to figure out a way to make this work!"
sir82- LOL! You're absolutely right.
JWoods- Yup, and that 1975 mess is embarrassing, I remember I told my dad what I found on that, he said "They never said that 1975 was going to be the end" but my dad graduated from high school in 1973, he didnt start taking "the truth" seriously until he met my mom in 1976, so he really didnt remember. When I showed him articles as well as I think it was a talk at a D.C. by Franz where it all points to 1975, he was shocked, really didnt say anything, then just said a couple days later "The light got brighter, and they corrected their mistake in future literature"
It's always the light got brighter, I'm tired of hearing that, makes me wanna smack the living dayLIGHT out of somebody.
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Circuit Assembly This Past Weekend "Safeguard Your Spirituality" -Everyone Please Enter-
by tryingtoexit inso we had our circuit assembly this past weekend, and it was the first one in my life that i told my wife i would not be attending.
we had a brief conversation on why, and she said well just go to this last one with me, and then when we can discuss what we learn and compare it to why you've been expressing your "new" feelings towards the wts.. i love my wife, and as much as i thought i was gonna hate it i decided to go.
now that i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness it really didnt bother me that nobody hardly talked to me despite me living in this same area for 4 1/2 years, everybody views me as spiritually weak because i dont go out in service, rarely attend meetings, dont comment, lesson is never underlined, so the "friends" never interact with me anyway and i'm use to it, actually that's the way i prefer it.
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Billy- Nice breakdown, you even hip me to some new things, thanks, the more I think about it I laugh at the D.O. for thinking he knows so much, when really he knows little
WTWizard- Yup, you know it, anything fun? Unnnnaccepppptable, lol, they not having it, it's like a fraternity where no fun is allowed.
Thanks Slyvia *hugs back*
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Proof from Watchtower Shunning has PAGAN Orgin and Foreign to Bible Teachings
by Lady Liberty inhello friends,.
my dad just found this article when doing some research for a letter he was sending my aunt and grandmother showing them how unscriptural shunning is.
i was blown away!!
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All Witnesses will say is "the light has gotten so much brighter since then, that was old"
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JW's Defend 607 BCE Teaching!
by tryingtoexit inmy father (who's an elder) just sent me this link...and i'd like to get yall opinions on it before i call him back:.
apostates and other opposers argue that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce, but in 587 bce, and provide what they claim is archaeological evidence to support this.
if 607 bce is wrong, then the seven times prophecy ending in 1914 ce would be wrong also.. .
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Billy and OnTheWayOut- Thanks for those, my mother was sick, so we're going to finish talking tomorrow. I think my father suspects that I'm headed "in an apostate direction" but he doesnt know the full scale of everything yet, for now he thinks he's helping me with my own way of showing HIM things, he's emailing me all sorts of things, but thanks to guys I have the firepower beyond any magnitude of anything he would expect to come his way, as always...I'm his son and will make sure it comes across in a respectful way, I admit, because of yall, I'm more confident in what I've studied solo, and these past 6 months of being on this site has really opened my eyes and given me the courage I needed.
Sweet Pea- I like that, thanks, bout to check it out now...