Why can't they just come clean and accept their responsibility. Their internal workings obviously are detrimental to justice and ethical behaviors in these abuse situations. They could make their religion look a lot more respectable if they would bite the bullet and call on proper legal, law enforcement and social service agencies to deal with such cases. Their shroud of arrogant secrecy does little to commend them as godlike or Christian.
Posts by tiki
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16AP Article: Jehovah's Witnesses ask court to reverse $35M abuse verdict
by AndersonsInfo injehovah's witnesses ask court to reverse $35m abuse verdict.
by the associated press.
posted sep 13, 2019 12:34 pm pdt.
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Reinstatement/dating
by Pinky ina month ago i was reinstated as a jehovah’s witness.
he was not disfellowshipped.
in my meeting i was told that i could not become involved with the man that i committed a sin with, which is adultery once i’m reinstated.
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tiki
Disentangle yourself....move on. Live your life. Those "elders" really have no authority over you....but if you allow them to dictate the terms of your life...that is on you. Don't waste precious time dancing around trying to please them. Not only is it completely unnecessary, it is damaging to you psychologically and emotionally. As for your lover...sounds like he needs to man up and decide where his heart truly lies.
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Article: Telegraph-JW agrees not to show son religious cartoons because of risk of 'Emotional Damage'
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/?wt.mc_id=tmg_share_fb.
a jehovah's witness has agreed not to show his son religious cartoons and has been banned from taking the six-year-old to some church events because it could cause him "emotional damage".
the man is embroiled in a family court dispute with his estranged wife and has been barred by a court from taking the little boy to jehovah's witness assemblies, annual conventions and memorials.. district judge malcolm dodds also said that the father had agreed not to show his son "jehovah's witness cartoons", a decision he described as "wise".
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tiki
Sounds good to me! Kid is dodging a bullet.
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Caleb's mom in university ad
by road to nowhere inad on tv had the exact cartoon figures as caleb, sophia and parents.
i cant convince anyone pimi that the gb didnt come up with the programming all by themselves.
the mormon kids look similar too.
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tiki
Yeah....she got fed up with the whole thing and divorced. She got the kids but was left in a bad money situation so had to take the factory job given she had no skills or education from pioneering prior to marriage. But she wised up and realized she needed to make a better life for them so signed onto an online degree program. She made it work! Another success story. And Caleb and Sophia grew up happy and mentally healthy despite a rough start in life.
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The biggest mistake.
by Half banana ina long time ago, before television radio and films, before printing, before the invention of writing, people listened only to the spoken word—and the cry of birds, the wind whistling through the trees and the sea crashing on the sea shore.
before written text they knew about the gods because high up there in the night sky was where they lived; gods, goddesses and immortal heroes.
the constellations told of their exploits.
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tiki
Pete, your observations about the bible are piquing my curiosity. For years after our departure from the cult my husband would continue to read the bible...the book of Daniel especially fascinated him...I bought him some erudite expositions on the book which I too found fascinating. But I could not read or consider the bible as a whole due to being so soured on it by the cult. I kind of wish I could detach sufficiently and see it from your perspective. Interesting thread here.
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Cringe in December
by neat blue dog inoh boy, the meetings lined up for december are culty.. it all starts with a 5 minute talk someone has to give on the topic "why should we not be troubled by the increase of memorial partakers in recent years?".
the next week again inserts jws into bible prophecy, first with "the earth swallowed up the river", which claims that court victories for the org are really god's doing.
there is no mention on who is responsible for the many judgements against the org.. then there's this chart to be discussed that same night:.
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tiki
Desperate times require desperate tactics.....
You can't make sense out of nonsense....but you gotta give them credit for persistence!
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AUSTRALIA | Media Article - Leaders of the Jehovah’s Witnesses ordered to destroy confidential records
by jwleaks inleaders of the jehovah’s witnesses ordered to destroy confidential records.
a letter obtained by inq has shed light on the secretive methods the jehovah's witnesses are undertaking to erase the impact of child sexual abuse within the sect.. by georgia wilkins sept 10, 2019. a body representing the jehovah’s witnesses in australia has written to all elders of the group ordering them to destroy confidential records, including notes taken by elders investigating child sexual abuse, in an instruction that has enraged survivors of abuse inside the secretive christian sect.. in a letter obtained by inq, dated august 28, a body called the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses (australasia) instructs elders to destroy so-called judicial hearing records and certain congregation notes.. “we ask that each elder check his personal computer, or hard copy files, and even his meeting bag, to ensure that no confidential correspondence is retained outside the congregation’s confidential file,” the letter states.
it also directs elders to destroy information aired against so-called “wrongdoers”: “if this ‘wild talk’ is recorded in detail, it may not be accurately assessed when reviewed out of context,” it says.
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tiki
Amazing the lengths that cult will go to to prtect their guilty arses. However given the capability level of those sitting in judgement I would anticipate much of their documentation significantly warped.... -
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one picture too far ( fetched)
by waton injuly 2019 wt mag.
study article 27, to sept 8 (last weak) sic intended.
page 5. .
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tiki
There is such a serious gulf between this cult purported "lifestyle"and reality. Seriously have they no grasp on the lives people really live??
Lame.....lame...lame....
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I was surprised today by what I saw a JW driving
by days of future passed ini was out thrift shopping where my sister lives.
before i went in to the store, i went to donut shop a few doors down.
as i walked up, there by the window was a family and others eating donuts.
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tiki
Its just an assumption they were witnesses...and an assumption that they forked over $100k for the vehicle.....perhaps they were simply a group of conservatively dressed people going to a funeral in a rented car, chosen for show off value. Or maybe the driver was a car dealer out advertising. And if they were indeed dubs who really gives a poop.
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Finding our true identity after spiritual abuse in the Watchtower
by Faith after Deception ini personally find that when you’ve been around toxic people long enough, either in a family environment or as part of a cult or a highly controlling church, (or worse, both!
), you tend to get a very twisted view of your own identity and also human nature in general.. in a religious context, you may end up feeling that you are a “lowly worm” and that in general, people can’t be trusted.
since all you’ve known of relationships has been painful, complex and tiresome, it can give you the impression that this is the norm and that’s all you can expect .
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tiki
I relate very strongly to the third and fourth paragraph.....neuroscience proving that our set brain circuits impact our view of self and others. I have lived a life accepting toxicity in relationships as the norm and it is indeed hard to reform those perspectives.
Spirituality I see differently.....the human, the life we lead, is one thing...our intrinsic self...the spirit....something else and elusive to the human mind. There is much we simply cannot grasp about eternity....the spiritual....as we are currently locked in the human condition.