i know what they don't stand for.. they do not celebrate holidays, believe in getting involved with the "world", vote, take blood transfusions......well, that's not really so.. if a christian (jw) wife was told by her "unbelieving" (non-jw) husband to help decorate the home for christmas, she could do it!
if he wanted her to go to a christmas work party, she could attend.. a jw has to be totally separated from this world.
politics is a no-no.
They are the first to stand in line for food..
HELL yeah!! I used to go to the DA in Philly...down in the HOOD area. You should've seen how some of these JWs would act standing in line for the last spicey chicken breast at Popeyes?! -hahahaha. I mean, you would've thought chicken was being BANNED the way they would push and yell at the order takers...pretty sad.
i know what they don't stand for.. they do not celebrate holidays, believe in getting involved with the "world", vote, take blood transfusions......well, that's not really so.. if a christian (jw) wife was told by her "unbelieving" (non-jw) husband to help decorate the home for christmas, she could do it!
if he wanted her to go to a christmas work party, she could attend.. a jw has to be totally separated from this world.
politics is a no-no.
There is even a brochure that is posted on all KH announcement boards that shows what is APPROPRIATE 'dress' for mtgs and Bethel visits and what isn't....yes - it has specific pics showing examples of what they deem 'inappropriate'.
JWs can't celebrate holidays nor birthdays - but they consider 'the Memorial' a holiday they honor every year AND have problems celebrating Anniversaries, which technically is the birthday of your marriage!!
i don't know how this happened and how they met, but a relative, a jw elder and my old po talked about us leaving the wts.
(he said this to my wife).
they reasoned, how could someone, who was a pioneer, bethelite, worked at the rbc, district and circuit level, taught at the pioneer school, helped dozens to baptism, suddenly and inexplicably, leave jehovah's organization?.
My dad said that to me when I was attempting to 'defend' my decision NOT to return to the org! He told me that I needed to read Cof C and ask myself WHY a Bethelite and Member of the Gov Body would LEAVE the org and write a book about it???? I just LAUGHED cause I 'get it' now, i see how a person can be wrapped up in a religion for years and not see the real deal - like I was. Its takes a 'situation' for the blinders to come off...
im new but am completly thrilled to find a site like this discussing things i've personally contemplated for years.
in my research and through posts here its come to my attention that the meetings (watchtower study in particular) are designed to hypnotize you(reference charcot) thorough, among other means, soothing song.
they say it relaxes the mind a prepares it for the process.
And THAT sums up the whole premise of DFing - EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL! Either believe everything and do what you're told or lose everything - including 'Gods love'. UGH!
im new but am completly thrilled to find a site like this discussing things i've personally contemplated for years.
in my research and through posts here its come to my attention that the meetings (watchtower study in particular) are designed to hypnotize you(reference charcot) thorough, among other means, soothing song.
they say it relaxes the mind a prepares it for the process.
I have it! Diagnosed aprx 5yrs ago. Raised a JW and as anyone with ADD knows, the only way we stay 'focused' is on things we ENJOY or are interested in. Guess that's why the mtgs bored me.
hi everyone...thank you for all your well wishes for my scottish hols...it was nice..warm dry weather...lovely scenery...a good rest... what i will remember the most about the holiday is that i read ray franz's book there...in fact i struggled to put it down.
it was so revealing and informative but was also written without bitterness or malice.
it stirred many emotions within me ...too many probably...anger, remorse, indignation, sorrow, heartbreak, frustration, sympathy....you name it.... a big emotional journey for me....thanks to all for the recommend i would hate to have missed it..... loz x.
That book made me cry...it was SO enlightening!
i used to work in advertising, and more specifically, with automotive dealers.
a lot of them are notorious (even though it's illegal) for the 'bait-n-switch' sales tactic: they advertise one loaded model car, customer calls in and is interested in that particular advertised model, the dealer claims to have it and so the customer stops in to drive it, and then bam!
dealers suddenly doesn't have the advertised model but offers the customer another low-end model for apprx the same price.. for some reason that reminds me of how people come into the jw religion.
The WTS always bets on the convert wanting to save his/her investment into the WTS.
YO! I like that statement a LOT!!! Makes perfect sense...all that time and energy studying and going to mtgs IS an investment.
o.k i have noticed that most female jws are ugly.and by ugly i mean ugly.they won't work out,they are fat and won't go on a diet (some female teens won't even shave their legs),they neglect their appearance/body in general.any opinions?.
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p.s many will eventually get fat after marriage.
Um....sweetheart...I don't know what area YOU come from, but I have never BEEN and never will BE - ugly!
But I did have some associates in the org that were LESS then attractive - by any standards.
i used to work in advertising, and more specifically, with automotive dealers.
a lot of them are notorious (even though it's illegal) for the 'bait-n-switch' sales tactic: they advertise one loaded model car, customer calls in and is interested in that particular advertised model, the dealer claims to have it and so the customer stops in to drive it, and then bam!
dealers suddenly doesn't have the advertised model but offers the customer another low-end model for apprx the same price.. for some reason that reminds me of how people come into the jw religion.
I used to work in Advertising, and more specifically, with Automotive Dealers. A lot of them are notorious (even though it's illegal) for the 'bait-n-switch' sales tactic: they advertise one loaded model car, customer calls in and is interested in THAT particular advertised model, the dealer claims to have it and so the customer stops in to drive it, and then BAM! Dealers suddenly doesn't have the advertised model BUT offers the customer another low-end model for apprx the same price.
FOr some reason that reminds me of how people come into the JW religion. They are 'baited' with all this hope and love, genuine friendship, and Bible knowledge on a surface level. Then the person gets baptized, and the SWITCH happens - they learn that the love is underminded with people who really don't give a rats butt, those friendships are conditional, and that NOW their dedication means they are to cut off ALL others (family, friends, children, associates) that are not part of the faith. It's illegal in the workplace and should be illegal across the board.
what a sad joke!
posters here talk about the "do more" pushiness in the organization and that is so true!
elders just assume that you want to carry microphones and work your way up the spiritual ladder to that blissful state of total immersion in "kingdom matters.
A CO gave a talk where he said fron the platform "If a brother can't even hold the mics in the Khall - WHAT makes him a good candidate as someones marriage mate?" I remember wrinkling up my face trying to figure out WHERE in the hell this dude got this instruction...
AFterwards my mother held onto that statement like GOLD! If I met a bros, and he wasn't an MS, she would start trippin with that whole 'remember what the CO said' BS. The weirdest part was that in seeing WHOM got the privilege of holding the mic in the Khall: 1) a developmentally challenged bros who can't live on his own nor hold a FT job, 2) a 65yr old EX elder who was now just an MS, and 3) an MS who is married and who is verbally abusive to his wife and children .... so WHAT kind of example is that?
