babygirl30
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Lost on how to respond...
by babygirl30 inso an old friend of mine from the congregation hit me up today.
the story goes like this when we were jw's:.
- this guy used to be madly in love with me but i didn't see him as anything more than a friend.
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babygirl30
I like that...but this guy is a born-in like myself, who doesn't understand that kind of frank speech! -hahaha -
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Lost on how to respond...
by babygirl30 inso an old friend of mine from the congregation hit me up today.
the story goes like this when we were jw's:.
- this guy used to be madly in love with me but i didn't see him as anything more than a friend.
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babygirl30
So an old friend of mine from the congregation hit me up today. The story goes like this when we were JW's:
- this guy used to be madly in love with me but I didn't see him as anything more than a friend
- we tried 'dating' but I quickly ended it after about 3wks, again, because I wasn't into him like that
- he continued to pursue me and/or stay a close friend years later
- when I was DF'd he cried...
Now I've been out for 8yrs now and have never heard from this guy. I found out that one of his siblings had passed and I sent him an email a year ago to offer my condolences. He responded TODAY like this:
Just opened this email I haven't looked at it in 3 years. This will be the one time, that I will speak about it. But I worry about you. You have been gone a long time. If I bumped into you out somewhere... I would say the same thing.
Don't you think its time to come back? I know it wont be easy, but face it this world is getting worse and worse and you have family and friends and Jehovah that still cares what happens to you. Seriously take that into consideration. No matter what you have done Jehovah has the ability to forgive you.I am at a loss for words - oddly enough. Typically when any of my old JW friends hit me up with this malarky, I will respond with a short explanation of WHY I won't come back. But with this one, he is now an elder (was gunning for it back when we were hanging out) and so I know my usual response will NOT be well received. What can I say 'in kind' that won't be too preachy, but will get my point across that I am GOOD????? -
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The JW Elder Who Started All the Insanity that was bound to eventually start. This Elder Loves Trouble!
by ReligionOfHatred inin order to understand what is happening you have to start from the beginning of our saga.
about nine years ago a elder with asperger's syndrome found out my family member almost came to blows with our next door neighbor who is so successful, he probably makes $2 million a year net-income with all his businesses and investments.
the co-owner of the property got angry because our neighbor did not like certain breeds of dogs, the fact was he was mauled by the breed elder bucket-head owned and elder bucket-head refused to fix the fence and so his dog would continually show up on my neighbors front door harassing his little dogs and growl.. elder asperger's heard my dad and his friend talking about uncle bucket-head's near blows even though they were whisphering at book study, his ears are good when it comes to seeking out sin and finding ways to bring brothers before the elders.
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babygirl30
Sounds like a crazy story...at least what I could piece together. No offense, but it is written all over the place, in a sense.
But from what I could gather, this brother with Aspergers IS a problem! Sadly, when it comes to that type of disorder, there isnt any reasoning with them. What gets in their head sticks in their head (like you said)...and they each have a particular 'subject' they become obsessed with. You mentioned chess and then of course his incessant tattling, that must be his obsession - judicial order. On one hand you gotta feel bad for him, but on the other hand, the lack of emotional feelings must make him like HELL to deal with.
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Humanism and Witnisam.
by The Rebel inwell it seems for many on this board the time came to leave the w.t and cross the bridge in to a real world.
speaking for myself l feel i did not enter the cold and lonely world i was lead to believe i was entering.
rather i have discovered it was no great loss leaving a world that had protected me with false, dreams, fantazy and false promises.. but what have i really achieved by my leaving that i value?.
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babygirl30
Like most have said, it wasnt until being on the outside looking in (DF'd), that I began to understand how it felt to be ME. So I wholeheartedly agree with everything the other posters said! To be able to feel, to not be so scared to try new things, to be whoever I want to be - all of that is priceless. I said it before and will say it till the day I die: people outside of the org will never ever understand the mental and emotional torment we dealt with as JWs. And it is sometimes embarrassing to try to explain it...because there are so many layers to the abuse of our minds, that it sounds crazy. But the freedom is something I never take for granted. -
babygirl30
Happy Birthday!!!! -
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Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Brother Jeramy inallow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.
i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.
some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).
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babygirl30
I love and believe in Jehovah God and his son Jesus. But I have chosen to be spiritual (in my beliefs and actions) instead of religious. Staying an active JW - active meaning still fully participating in all required activities - would make you religious, in my opinion. One thing that confused me about your post is that you happily admit being part of the org , yet claim not to believe in the 'org'? That's like me going to crackhouse, eating and drinking with the residents, but not doing crack - yet claiming 'I'm not part of that crackhouse'. Does that make any sense?
I guess the question I most want to understand is that if you are unapologetic as a JW ,why come to a site and "announce" your stance - to 95% of us ex-JW's? And please understand that to most of us, there is no distinction between your JW status (brotherhood...sisterhood...etc). If you go, and you participate, you ARE.
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Reflecting on my Disfellowshipping
by kairos intoday is the day.. i was baptized as one of jehovah's witnesses on march 25th 1989.disfellowshipped for admitted apostasy today, september 10th 2015.. what an amazing story we all share.
how did we get involved with this group and think this was the best way of life?.
i asked my wife to stay home from the meeting tonight and spend the evening with me.she is.... we celebrated our 19th wedding anniversary this past monday.. i must admit, i never saw any of this coming, but it couldn't have come sooner.i'm free of all the fake friendships.
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babygirl30
Congrats on leaving (no matter the circumstance) and for realizing what TTATT really is!! It is refreshing, yet disheartening - in how we are treated once we leave. But good luck in your growth as a free person! -
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Conditioned to fail
by Jordandemm injust want to say hi and a big thank you to all that post in this site.
it has been extremely tough waking up as a born.
but in slowly removing any doubts about leaving this man made religion.
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babygirl30
I sent my reply too quick!!! My point was - keep TRYING. It is a serious adjustment, one that people who were not raised like us will never ever understand. I always felt like I was crazy...trying to explain my upbringing. But you are right, the conditioning is an epic F.A.I.L...
We had no 'real' clue what we were facing when we left the Khall behind.
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Conditioned to fail
by Jordandemm injust want to say hi and a big thank you to all that post in this site.
it has been extremely tough waking up as a born.
but in slowly removing any doubts about leaving this man made religion.
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babygirl30
Honestly, I never had any issue making friends. I guess I've always been naturally extroverted - that I had 'worldly' friends since I got out of high school. I refused to separate myself 100% from coworkers and all, and that is how I built relationships with people. But I admit to being socially 'naieve' in a sense, because I had NO idea how the other side lived! -
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Just lost one more friend
by paradisebeauty ini used to talk weekly on skype, with a sister from another country.
i didn't tell her much about my research and change of beliefs, until today ... in the conversations some doctrines came up and i told her i don't believe 1914, first, then i went on to tell her that i also don't believe there are 2 classes of christians, that i did not believe the government of the kingdom will be in heaven while the kingdom en earth, that i believe the whole kingdom will be on earth, and that from what i read, jesus was pretty clear that he will come back to earth, visibly.
the "god always had an organization" dogma was dropped and i told her it is not true, out of 9000 years of human history, it's not sure there were 1000 years when god had a loyal organization ..... i did not plan to tell her all this things, but it just happened, and things came up in the conversation... and once i dropped one bomb i dropped them all .... she said i do not sound like i am one of the jehovah's witnesses any more ... and even though we ended the call with "see ya" i have the feeling i will not hear from her any more ... .
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babygirl30
Im sorry about this...I guess we get SO excited to have someone we can 'express' our beliefs to - that it scares them off. Ironically, they feel they can express themselves to everyonr else, and no one bats an eye