Posts by cyberjesus

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FASCINATING debate: do we actually know what JESUS taught at all??

by Terry in

this debate is quite thrilling.. .

start at three minutes and forty two seconds where bart ehrman begins speaking.

then, if you find this compelling, go back and watch all the debate.. .

cyberjesus

bump

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Finish the job the Jehovah's Witnesses started on you!

by Terry in

jw
friends

what jehovah's witnesses get right is that the basis for christianity rests on scripture and the bible itself.. but, they only go just so far.

they stop at making you suspicious of bad things which have crept in to the bible through centuries of corruption.. the jw's unpack and deconstruct christianity j-u-s-t e-n-o-u-g-h for you to see the rats and spiders and cockroaches.

they quickly squeeze it all back together again repackaged.

cyberjesus

it does

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I have found the truth about the truth now...

by truthseeker12 in

i am a third generation of jehovah witnesses, even if i never got baptized.

however, they disfellowship me when i was around 15. this was around 1987. even if i have not been in the "truth" for so many years it has affected all my life in many ways not only negative.

a couple of years ago i thought the events in the world maybe proved to me that they were right after all.

cyberjesus

TS12: Are you talking about our JWs? cuz JW didnt Disfellowshiped unbaptized publishers. Maybe you need to read now the FLOCK book, is online :-)

Also since you are reading a lot Its time for you to read about who really wrote the bible. There is a book called just that "Who wrote the bible" by Friedman

91

Armageddon

by sayitsnotso in

i'm beginning to have some doubts about my doubts.

this subject is one of them.. many argue that it is unfair, unloving, and unjust for god to destroy 99.9% of all mankind at armageddon.

but didn't this happen before in the days of noah?

cyberjesus

Talking Animals in the Pentateuch ? Doublets (two stories of the same account)? Different writting styles within the same book? A good read would be

WHO WROTE THE BIBLE? by Friedman.... it will all make sense.

68

Do You Think Prostitution Should Be Illegal?

by minimus in

jw
friends

recently, in my area, a number of people have gotten caught looking to pay for sex from a call girl.

a catholic priest was one of the "johns" that got arrested.. i know there are some that argue that it is debasing.

still, for a million years, it's been going on and there are willing parties who want to engage in this activity.. if two consenting adults want to have sex with one another and are willing to pay and accept the services, is it a horrible thing, in your opinion?.

cyberjesus

Prostitution should be LEGAL and FREE. Provided by the Government in an Assistance Program!

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Finish the job the Jehovah's Witnesses started on you!

by Terry in

jw
friends

what jehovah's witnesses get right is that the basis for christianity rests on scripture and the bible itself.. but, they only go just so far.

they stop at making you suspicious of bad things which have crept in to the bible through centuries of corruption.. the jw's unpack and deconstruct christianity j-u-s-t e-n-o-u-g-h for you to see the rats and spiders and cockroaches.

they quickly squeeze it all back together again repackaged.

cyberjesus

I have been resurected

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New JW video hilarious "Public Servants"

by yourmomma in

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friends

apparantly jw's will do your yard work, pick up your kids from school, or pick up your meds if you are in a jam.

lol this video is ridiculus propaganda:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkubvcoewei.

cyberjesus

crap

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Would any of you DESTROY ones faith and life as a JW if they were your dying grandparents?

by EndofMysteries in

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friends

this is a serious question, trying to decide the right thing to do.........i do believe in god, i am sorting out what i believe and true from lie and such.

have question on how atheist and just ones belief in god would respond to this.. .

if you have a grandparent, (or even some relative) who spent their entire life as a jw.

cyberjesus

think it all depends on

1) how valuable is for you to know the truth

2) how easy is for to you to understand the truth

I want the truth ALWAYS so if I was a JW and was dying and my children could prove to me that all my beliefs are wrong and lets say I have only 8 hours left and I can digest them all in 8 hours. then I would rather know the truth how painful it is.

However being the fact that JW are a mind control cult it would probably take more that 8 hours to open my eyes. Because even if I wanted to know it I wouldnt be able to free my mind so it would be useless. And at the end it matters the most to spend a good time with my dying relative than ending my life with an emotional crisis.

My Grandparents are 80. They are not dying. They look like they have still another 5 years. I love them. They love me. They know I am not aJW anymore but they dont know I dont believe in God anymore. Their whole life was based on the CULT. I think that if I opened their eyes that would kill them, or they would fall on depression and their last years would be miserable. I fell in 2 months of deep depression and was able to stand up because I still have many years left (I hope) But I m still upset that I wasted my first 40. But I have tools to change my life.... Do they have tools to cope and change their life? I dont think so.

My Parents are 60. Very Well know family in Mexico. They have literally thousands of "Friends" in their religion and ZERO friends outside. Both of them have heart problems and they constantly talk about my life and my return to GODOVAH. Here lies the question, my question. Should I try to help them? Are they able to open their eyes? Can they re-start their life outside of the BORG? Can they live with the STIGMA of being labeled APOSTATES when they were on the other side? Can they handle it? Its a difficult decision. They are under total mind control, so I dont think its even possible even if they could survive in this "worldly" world.

What is the truth anyway? What is reality? What difference does it make at then end if they knew they were in the truth or not? When they are dead it doesnt matter anymore. They are gone. Their knowledge just dissapeared. I think if I were to tell them the Truth because that was the REALity but the truth would only kill them.. How different would it be from the Blood Doctrine that kills them just to defend the TRUTH?

If I could extend their life or at least not shorten it. not by lying but by not revealing information that would kill them, I am willing to have in my conscience a lie just not to make them suffer. And when I face my death I will know that I tried to helped them but I knew it was not possible so I did my best to keep them as happy as possible. I will have a smile in my face and I could die in peace. and after that it wouldnt matter.

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SOME ENCOURAGEMENT FOR THE NEWBIES AND LURKERS

by palmtree67 in

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friends

a quote from "crisis of conscience".

don't be afraid to read it.. .

whatever the initial distress - a distress that sometimes follows the demenaing experience of being interogated by men who, in effect strip one of dignity, make the weight of their authority felt, and presume to judge adversely one's standing with god - however torn one may feel inside, afterward there is a distinct feeling of relief, of peace.

cyberjesus

Yeah Welcome, ALL of you, there are so many. This is a great crowd.

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The Bible, Why not Reliable?

by sayitsnotso in

okay here is my thread to discuss this.

i believe the bible is inspired by god and reliable.

many argue it's neither.

cyberjesus

SINS: If after reading LEOLAIA's fantastic and accurate summary and responses to your questions an TERRY's reasoning questions and you dont with honesty ponder on those FACTS.... then you can officially join PSacramento's Religion :-) But we will love you anyway.

My friend you have there a pretty damn good summary. It took me 2 months of daily research just to find the information that is in this thread. So save yourself two more months of your life and research the points made here. Thank the board later!

Good questions though. I had the same questions too. I think all of us here.

and FYI dont forget there are no original manuscripts of the bible. So any interpretation is still relaying on the fact that we are interpreting something we can never confirm really existed or its accuracy.