You look fantastic! Glad you had a good time. Lilly
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My 40th HS Reunion pic
by coffee_black inhad a blast at my 40th hs reunion this past weekend.
helped to organize it...and that was half the fun.
here's a pic of the reunion committee... i'm 3rd from the left standing up.... taken just before everyone else started arriving.
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is jesus a god?
by javig inhi...i have come across the jw text that says that "the word was a god" john 1:1...who is that "god"?
another god?
is him jesus?...
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lovelylil2
I was newly out of the JW's when someone told me about the 200 verses changed in the NT. At first I did not believe this to be true because how can they get away with that? Also I knew the WT was arrogant but thought even they would not blatantly subvert the scriptures. So too see if this were true, I DID go to the WT's publication of the Greek Interlinear Translation and studied it closely along with the NWT and another bible, the NIV.
The WT's own book proved that in the original Greek New Testament, Jesus IS referred to as GOD. Not a GOD. I have since ditched all the WT publications EXCEPT the Greek Interlinear Translation book. I use it to witness to other JWs.
btw: I now study New Testament Greek for my own knowledge. And there is no doubt about it the first century church recognized Jesus as God "in the flesh" and worshipped him accordingly.
For the sake of time, this is all I wish to say on this topic for now. Sorry I came in so late. Interesting thread though. Peace to all, Lilly
P.S. for those still in the org, if you do not have this book (Greek Interlinear Translation), get a copy. It just may change your life.
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20/20
by SnakesInTheTower ini dont know if this has already been posted..but 20/20 has this as one of its segments tonight (fri 11/20/09 9pm cst..abc).
devout jehovah's witness is suspected of murdering his wife of 19 years in cold.
snakes (rich .
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lovelylil2
I am originally from New York State and when my parents were still alive I worked for SBLI - Life Insurance co. Anyway, I wanted to take out two senior life insurance policies on them to pay for their burial if they passed because they had no life insurance. I had to bring both of them into my job to do this. In New York State it is illegal to take out life insurance on any adult unless they are present during the transaction and sign for it.
I don't know what the laws are in other states but perhaps this should be the standard. No one should be able to take life insurance out on someone over the internet.
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Phone Territory!
by stillin9 inwell, couple days ago i got stuck with a brother doing phone territory!
man, i hated that!
i kept on wishing no one picks up the phone or it's a disconnected phone number or something.
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lovelylil2
I was the Queen of phone territory in my congregation. I even got a group of sisters together weekly to do it. Of course it was more social gathering than actually witnessing as absolutely noone is home during the week. Everyone is working or in school. But it was great because I didn't have to drag my kids door to door during the week when they were young and I would get like 2 or 3 "hours" in at a time.
We even had a few good experiences too. I found when I did reach someone, if I promised never to call them again, they let me send them the free offer of the month.
I even gave demonstrations in the KH on how to effectively "witness" by phone. Lilly
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"No organisation for me!" A question for ex JW Christians
by Chalam inobviously the wt is a best a man made organisation and publishing company.
at worst it is far darker.. anyhow, i understand why an exjw would be cautious to join another organisation.. however, god does have one and it is called the church.. .
matthew 16:18 (new international version)18and i tell you that you are peter, and on this rock i will build my church, and the gates of hades will not overcome it.. it is not a denomination or even a religion, it is just the collective of all born again believers who have come to jesus and are build on his foundation.. 1 peter 2:4-5 (new international version) 4as you come to him, the living stonerejected by men but chosen by god and precious to him 5you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to god through jesus christ.. ephesians 2:19-22 (new international version) .
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lovelylil2
Hi, good Q.
I attend an online church at www.ptm.org for communion and to listen to sermons on different topics. I also fellowship with another local church on occasion. I have not officially "joined" any church though. I don't like the way churches set denominational guidelines. Christians should be called just that and not have titles that divide such as Catholic, Baptist, etc. And as a Christian I recognize the "real" church is the body of believers all through out the entire world regardless of church attendence or denominational affiliation. I associate with Christians thru out the U.S. and in Europe and in Africa whom I have met online and write to and speak with on the phone. I am not bound to one group so I can fellowship with believers everywhere. Anyone accepting Christ is a spiritual brother or sister to me.
When I first left the WT I was isolated and fearful of attending another church or organization. But now the Lord has revealed to me that I do not have to be fearful of any church or group. I can and should associate freely with all believers and I've visited many churches in my area.
Of course, I also associate with people who are not Christians too. But am simply answering this Q from the perspective of whether or not I joined another religious organization and why. My new faith in Christ allows me to love all people not just my spiritual brothers or sisters.
Hope this answers your question. Peace to you, Lilly
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Switching congregations
by EmptyInside indid any of you start going to another hall if there were problems in your last congregation?
it happens a lot now.
when someone has an unresolved problem, they decide to go to a neighboring congregation..
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lovelylil2
My family left the hall we were in for 10 years which happens to be practically within walking distance to our still current home. We started attending another hall about a 20 minute drive away. The reason we left is our old congregation was shielding a pedophile and we had two young children. I only found out because another sister went against the elders and told me about it.
About a year after going to another kh, we ended up leaving the witnesses anyway. Peace, Lilly
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In Total How Much $$$ Will You Spend On XMas Gifts?
by minimus inin total, the last few years, for family and a few friends, i spent over $2000.. this year, i expect to spend no more than $1000.. will you spend more or less this year?.
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lovelylil2
My husband plans on spending about $800 on his list. So that brings our total together to about $1,400. We are doing CASH only this year.
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20/20
by SnakesInTheTower ini dont know if this has already been posted..but 20/20 has this as one of its segments tonight (fri 11/20/09 9pm cst..abc).
devout jehovah's witness is suspected of murdering his wife of 19 years in cold.
snakes (rich .
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lovelylil2
I thought the detectives did a great job gathering the evidence against Jarka and the prosecutor did an A-1 job too.
These are the things that made me feel he IS guilty and apparently the jury had similiar thoughts;
1. the Mother inlaw immediately blames Jarka. Apparently she knew there was trouble in paradise (no pun intended)
2. the fact that the crime scene was too controlled and cofined to a small area. IF an intruder did this he would have run back down the stairs and out the door he came in. Where the heck was the blood trail then?? Jarka had something ready to put the bloody weapon and clothes in immediately and he simply carried them away and dumped them somewhere.
3. The fact that this guy did not try to hold his dying wife at all after 20 years of marriage. He should of had some blood on him but he didn't because he cleaned it all off himself. And he didn't turn her over to assess the damage because he knew what the damage was and he knew she was already dead.
4. The fact that he searched how to kill someone on the internet and the fact that he took out so much life insurance on a stay at home mother with no income contributing to the family.
There was more but these are the main reasons I feel he is guilty. Look at the lifestyle this guy was trying to keep up with, he wanted the money, his wife was going to leave him anyway according to her mother so he figured he would just take her out , collect the money and start a new life. This guy planned this for a while.
The way he killed that poor women and the savageness of it, I agree with the judge, he is PURE EVIL.
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In Total How Much $$$ Will You Spend On XMas Gifts?
by minimus inin total, the last few years, for family and a few friends, i spent over $2000.. this year, i expect to spend no more than $1000.. will you spend more or less this year?.
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lovelylil2
Each year my husband and I split the christmas list right down the middle. He buys gifts for me and the kids and includes other family members on his list like his siblings, mother and nieces and nephews and I do the same. This year my list includes my husband and 2 kids, 2 brothers, 1 sister, 2 sister inlaws, 1 brother inlaw, 3 nephews, 2 nieces and 2 of my best friends.
My budget is $600 on the low end and $800 on the high end. Hoping to hit somewhere in between. Lilly
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The Title Jesus Gave Himself: Lord of the Sabbath
by EverAStudent ini have been reading and investigating matthew 12:1-8. jesus is accused of breaking the law of the seventh day of rest, the sabbath.
he defends himself and then caps the discussion by declaring himself to be "the lord of the sabbath.
" since only yhwh was ever known as the lord of the sabbath (the one who created, owned, and received worship on the sabbath) i can find no other valid meaning for the title jesus gave to himself, except that he is calling himself god.. what meaning does the wts put on this title, since i know they are not willing to allow jesus to call himself yhwh?.
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lovelylil2
What does it mean when Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath?
Matt. 12:8
8 “For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”The Jews had many traditions with respect to the Sabbath and how it was to be kept. They had many regulations restricting behavior that were not found as prohibitions in the Law of Moses. They did not allow the lighting of candles on the Sabbath. They made it unlawful to throw more grain to their poultry than could be eaten lest some of it might sprout and grow and therefore they would be guilty of sowing on the Sabbath. They taught that it was unlawful to swat a fly on the Sabbath.
Jesus did not think that it was necessary to observe all of the trivial regulations that came about through the traditions of men even though it brought criticism of himself and his disciples on numerous occasions. Jesus received more criticism about what he did and did not do on the Sabbath than he got on any other matter. I think it is interesting to list some of the criticism he received.
Mark 3:1-6 - He was criticized for healing a withered arm on the Sabbath.
Mark 3:4
4 And He *said to them, “Is it lawful to do good or to do harm on the Sabbath, to save a life or to kill?” But they kept silent.Luke 4:33-39 - Jesus cast out a demon from a man in the synagogue and then went home with Peter and healed his wife’s mother.
John 5:5-18 - Jesus heals a man who had been unable to walk in thirty-eight years. He told him to “Get up, pick up your pallet and walk., ” and the man did! Verse 10 says
John 5:10
10 So the Jews were saying to the man who was cured, “It is the Sabbath, and it is not permissible for you to carry your pallet.”John 9:1-16 - Jesus heals a blind man, a man blind from birth.
John 9:16
16 Therefore some of the Pharisees were saying, “This man is not from God, because He does not keep the Sabbath.” But others were saying, “How can a man who is a sinner perform such signs?” And there was a division among them.Luke 13:10-17
10 And He was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath. 11 And there was a woman who for eighteen years had had a sickness caused by a spirit; and she was bent double, and could not straighten up at all. 12 When Jesus saw her, He called her over and said to her, “Woman, you are freed from your sickness.” 13 And He laid His hands on her; and immediately she was made erect again and began glorifying God. 14 But the synagogue official, indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, began saying to the crowd in response, “There are six days in which work should be done; so come during them and get healed, and not on the Sabbath day.” 15 But the Lord answered him and said, “You hypocrites, does not each of you on the Sabbath untie his ox or his donkey from the stall and lead him away to water him? 16 “And this woman, a daughter of Abraham as she is, whom Satan has bound for eighteen long years, should she not have been released from this bond on the Sabbath day?” 17 As He said this, all His opponents were being humiliated; and the entire crowd was rejoicing over all the glorious things being done by Him. Christian to the Sabbath?With that as background, lets return to our verse:
Matt. 12:8
8 “For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”Jesus calls himself the “Son of man.” It is interesting to note that neither Mark or John calls “Jesus Son of man,” but they do record the fact that he called himself “Son of man.” The title is used in Daniel 7:13 with reference to the Messiah. It identifies the humanity of our Lord. He was Son of God and Son of Man.
As the Son of God Jesus came to earth clothed with the authority of God Himself.
John 8:28-29
28 So Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me. 29 “And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to Him.”Since Jesus had authority from God, he had the authority while on earth to forgive sins. An example of this is found in Mark 2:
Mark 2
10 “But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”--He *said to the paralytic, 11 “I say to you, get up, pick up your pallet and go home.” 12 And he got up and immediately picked up the pallet and went out in the sight of everyone, so that they were all amazed and were glorifying God, saying, “We have never seen anything like this.”John 5;27
27 and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man.The Scriptures tell us that it is the “Son of Man” who will send forth the angels to gather out of His Kingdom all stumbling blocks (Matt. 13:41) It is the “Son of Man” who will come in the glory of His Father to separate the righteous from the wicked and execute the wrath of God upon the wicked (Matt. 25:31-46. It is the “Son of Man” who is our mediator, himself man, interceding at the right hand of God for us (1 Tim. 2:5).
“The Son of Man” had the right to claim that he was lord of the Sabbath and therefore had the right to interpret the laws regulating the actions of his disciples on that day. Since Jesus was God in the Flesh (John 1:1-14) surely he had the right to understand the nature of the Sabbath and its purpose, as well as the law regulating its observance. He was, therefore, lord or master of the Sabbath