You are right on the money a "demonstration" is a public display and means nothing at all! How about showing real personal interest and love for this person. Or even better, how about the WT not get involved in isolating people from their true friends and family to begin with???
lovelylil2
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Last Nights Mtg. "Demonstrate Personal Interest" (New Bible Students Beware)
by WalkTall insometimes it just hits you how cold and unfeeling this religious corporation is.. last night there was a part in the kingdom ministry about helping new bible studies.
in one paragraph it mentioned how the new student might cut ties with former associates because they are not living by bible principles.
it says that their families might disown them.
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Come all Ye' Faithful... and tell us how God has answered
by AK - Jeff inprayer.. billions of people have been praying for hundreds of years for peace.
other billions pray for happiness for mankind.
not one evidence exists that he hears or that he cares.. can anyone provide solid evidence that god answers prayers.
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lovelylil2
No thank you, I am not interested.............(Lil closing the door)
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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?
by FreeAtLast1914 inthe society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".
they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.
one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.
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lovelylil2
lime,
You are the one who tried to say Jesus was just like the Horus myth. That is why I showed you evidence to the contrary. As far as other savior Gods, like Perry said there is simply none like Jesus. People have been making that claim to me for more than 20 years and whenever I ask them for specific references to this, they can never seem to provide them. I have personally looked into all the accusations by doing deep research into whether or not jesus was like Horus, Zeus, Gilgamesh, etc. and have always found this accusation to be grasping at straws. There is always much more difference between these stories then similiarities between them and jesus.
Do yourself a favor and don't just believe utube or someone else who puts an article up on the web with no references, go to the library yourself and check these things Out. Thats what I did and I am glad I did.I also have an extensive library in my home of books on religion, myths, etc. So I can go right to the source. Again, if you can give me any references I can varify, I am sure I have the book at home and will glady look it up.
Ham,
You said the bible leaves us in the dark about the age of the universe - the thing is that God never told mankind what the age of the universe is and why would he? Yes modern science can guess at its age and are probably close to it, but it is only a guess. Unless we were around when the universe was formed, we have no way of conclusively knowing for sure.
And since the bible is not a scientific textbook but rather a faith book, we shouldn't expect the answers to Q's like these to be addressed in it.
Lilly
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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?
by FreeAtLast1914 inthe society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".
they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.
one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.
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lovelylil2
Lime this may interest you;
many try to link Jesus with the Horus myth, but does it hold up under scrutiny?
Claim #1-Horus and Jesus are born from a virgin.
Horus’s mother is Isis. Isis was married to Osiris. We do not know for what length of time, but presumably the marriage was consummated. Whether it was or wasn’t doesn’t matter though. After Osiris is killed, Isis puts him back together again (he was hacked into 14 pieces) except for his penis which was tossed in a river or a lake. Iris fashions a substitute penis for him, humps him and here comes Horus. There is nothing virginal about that.
Claim #2-Both Horus and Jesus were born to a Mary and Joseph.
As noted Isis is Horus’s mother’s name not Mary. In addition, Seb is not Horus’s father, Osiris is. Seb is Osiris’s father. Further, Seb is a distinct name from Joseph. Putting them side by side does not make them synonyms, and that appears to be what was done here.
Claim #3-Both were born of royal descent.
This is accurate.
Claim #4-Both births were announced by angels and witnessed by shepherds.
I can find nothing that mentions that the birth of Horus was announced by an angel or witnessed by shepherds. I have found that Horus was born in a swamp, which is a pretty unlikely place for shepherds.
Claim #5-Both were heralded by stars and angels.
There is no star that heralded Horus’s birth nor is there any angel announcing it. In a footnote in The Origins of Christianity indicates that that there are three stars named the three kings in Orion and then relates this to the birth of Jesus. When we look to the stories regarding Horus, we find no star or angel announcing his birth.
Claim #6-Both had later visitors (Horus-3 deities and Jesus-3 wisemen.)
There is no indication that there ever were 3 wisemen. The bible never mentions the number of wisemen, nor is there any document that reflects 3 deities at the birth of Horus.
Claim #7-Both had murder plots against them.
There is mention that Seth did want to kill Horus, and Herod wanted to kill Jesus. so this is accurate.
Claim#8-Both came of age at 12, were baptized and their baptizers were executed.
There is no indication that Horus was preaching in a temple when he was 12.
Horus was never baptized in any of the Horus stories. Jesus was not baptized until he was 30 years old. His baptizer was killed so this is ture.Claim #9-Both had 12 disciples.
According to the Horus accounts, Horus had four semi-gods that were followers. There is some indication of 16 human followers and an unknown number of blacksmiths that went into battle with him. Horus did not have 12 disciples. Jesus reportedly did.
Claim #10-Both walked on water.
Horus didn’t, or at least there is no record that I can find that he did.
Claim #11-Both performed miracles.
This is true although the miracles were different in scope and nature.
Claim #12 Both exorcised demons and raised Lazarus.
The actual claim is that Horus raised Osiris from the dead and that the name Osiris morphed to Lazarus. It doesn’t matter because Horus did not bring Osiris back to life. There is no mention of this in any document regarding the story. Horus did avenge Osiris’s death, but that did not raise Osiris from the dead.
Claim #13-Both held a Sermon on the Mount; both were transfigured on a mountain, died by crucifixion along with two thieves and were buried in tombs where they paid a quick visit to Hell and then rose from the dead after 3 days time, both resurrections were witness by women, and both will supposedly reign for 1,000 years in the Millennium.
These are the most damning claims if they were proven true in my opinion. Yet, I can locate any of this. No sermon, no transfiguration, certainly no crucifixion w/ two thieves, no trip to hell and no resurrection. There was an incident in which Horus was torn to pieces and Iris requested the crocodile god to fish him out of the water he was tossed into, which was done, but that’s it. -
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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?
by FreeAtLast1914 inthe society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".
they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.
one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.
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lovelylil2
lime,
The bible is not a scientific book in the first place, It is a faith book. Therefore, why would it have to agree with modern science? The jws are really the only ones who try to apply bible scriptures to modern science to prove its merits. Most of mainstream christianity does not do this. We believe the Bible stands on its own merits for what it is, a faith book for God's people.
Anyway, in some of my posts, I was just kidding with you. Peace to you, Lilly
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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?
by FreeAtLast1914 inthe society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".
they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.
one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.
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lovelylil2
Lime, I took the liberty of using your words but added "God" in place of science. Because your arguement works well for my purposes too;
The facts and evidence surrounds us - we just have to look (and use the right tools). But most people don't seem to take any note of God, or think that it is all just 'religious speculation'. Somehow people with no religious education whatsoever can look at a research paper showing the facts in detail that God exists and created all things and yet will critique the paper on the basis that it "isn't what I want to believe".
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Jimi Hendrix - Your Favorite Songs from Him ? U-tubes Welcome !
by flipper inone of the, if not the greatest guitarist ever really influenced modern rock and roll as well !
here are my favorites from him.. 1. all along the watchtower.
2. hey joe.
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lovelylil2
All along the Watchtower is my fav especially since I was a JW. Some of the lyrics remind me of my experience in the WT and how I was feeling, especially in the end
There must be some kind of way out of here
Said the joker to the thief,
"theres too much confusion
I can't get no relief
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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?
by FreeAtLast1914 inthe society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".
they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.
one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.
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lovelylil2
Hintoflime,
It may surprise you but I am a christian who believes the earth is millions of years old. I also believe evolution is a sound theory that explans how life forms moved from lower life forms to more complex ones. However, even science cannot say exactly how living matter came into existance. And for me, this is where faith in God comes in.
The bible is not a science book but where it skims the surface of science I believe it is accurate. And I think the point perry is trying to make is that science does not have all the answers and frankly does not claim to. Peace, Lilly
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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?
by FreeAtLast1914 inthe society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".
they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.
one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.
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lovelylil2
Leave it to scientists then to be accurate.
Like they were in the global climate hoax?
Perry, that was priceless!
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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?
by FreeAtLast1914 inthe society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".
they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.
one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.
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lovelylil2
Perry,
do you have more information about what you stated above? If so I would be interested in seeing it. Please pm me, thanks Lilly