Posts by Larsinger58

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Remarrying, then paradise =problem?

by Inisc in

this is a question i always wondered about and never got an answer to.. its also another reason why i'm finding it harder to believe in an 'afterlife'.. th idea that humans can live forever, now seems so scientificly impossible.. so i wanted to ask all the great minds on here,.

if someone's spouse dies, and then they remarry,then armageddon comes and goes then the deceased is resurrected,.

how,is that ever gonna work?

Larsinger58

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Is it too much to ask the "CREATOR" in this technological, scientific age to give us a modern update for his intentions?

by smiddy in

is this a fair question to put to jehovah / yahweh or whoever ?

in all sincerity i do not mean any disrespect to any beleivers in the god of the bible, but this is a truly remarkable age with communication advances incomparable with 2000 years ago , if the creator or jesus christ were truly interested in giving everybody the chance of everlasting life , wouldn`t they be giving people the opportunity to hear a more current up to date warning now ?

and not relying on messages in languages that are not in use today and are subject to so many different interpretations ?.

Larsinger58

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Strategically, the GB should accept 587

by I Want to Believe in

right now, the 587/607 is a major weak link; doctrines can be argued in circles for days, but the overwhelming evidence for 587 is damning to their entire theology, and it can be found with very little effort.

however, if they just bite the bullet and "new light" a 587 date for jerusalem's destruction it solves a lot of their problems:.

-removes their main weak secular point of argument.

Larsinger58

587 BCE as year 18 of Nebuchadnezzar is part of the overall distortion of the NB Period. It was distorted by 57 years during his reign by the Persians. The VAT4956 tries to hide some secret references from the original timeline for year 37 of Nebuchadnezzar II, thus those of us who keep up with the recent research can recover the original dates for at least the rule of Neb-II using this document. Year 37 originally occurred in 511 BCE.

The significance of that is that this dates year 23 to 525 BCE which after you add 70 years of exile of the last deportees you get 455 BCE for the 1st of Cyrus, which few will argue is the implied fulfillment of the "70 weeks" which begin with the "word going forth to rebuild Jerusalem." So some of us use the VAT4956 to move beyond the false date of 587 BCE for year 18 of Neb-II. At this point though, because of the VAT4956, pretending 587 BCE is a viable date in ancient history for year 18 of Neb-II is just a matter of incompetence. In the meantime, the corrected dates found in the VAt4956 totally agree with the Bible's timeline for the NB Period! It's quite amazing!

You need to update.

LS

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The Bible and Genetics

by sabastious in

i recently read in discover magazine that scientists have found a way to turn on and off memory cells in our brain.

they say that this is good news for people with post traumatic stress disorder, which i was diagnosed with a few years ago.

this, to me, brings up the ethical question of what did the traumatic events in my life, and the lives of others, add to society as a whole?

Larsinger58

SAB. Interesting post. Let me assist you a bit about the esoteric trinity, though.

The truly HOLY TRINITY is right before your eyes in the Most Holy. Two angels and the Ark of the Covenant make up the holy trinity. That is, God, Christ and Christ's wife. The Ark of the Covenant represents Jehovah's holiness and Holy Mount Zion upon which the two angels dwell to reflect God's holiness. These angels are called the "covering cherubs" because their wings cover the ark. These two special unique angels are none other than Jesus Christ who is Michael the archangel and his companion/wife, the angel who became Satan.

Satan is said to represent a "pattern" and that pattern is reflected in the universe. The Sun represents Christ. The Moon, Satan. Satan is the most beautiful angel in the universe, how appropriate for the wife of Christ, right?

In Eden though, when we look for the trinity, it is elusive. That trinity would be Adam, Eve and not the serpent, but God himself. You see, Adam and Eve were based on those two angels, who were considered male and female. The two trees in the garden also reflected the two angels. The tree of Life, which comes from the man, is associated with Michael the archangel, Jesus Christ. The tree of KNOWLEDGE is associated with the angel Satan. Of course, Adam was created to reflect Christ/Michael and Eve to reflect his beautiful wife, Satan.

Now, thus, at Genesis 3:15 when God said: "I will put enmity between YOU and the woman and between your seed and her seed," Jehovah is speaking to the invisible principal involved here, namely Michael the archangel. Thus God was decreeing a divorce for Jesus Christ from Satan and Satan's followers in heaven and Christ and his followers in heaven. This plays out in Revelation in the battle in heaven. So the "woman and her seed" is a reference to the position in heaven of Satan as Christ's wife and that reflection in Eden as Eve. After saying the above to the invisible Jesus Christ present there, he turned to Satan and said: "He (i.e. Jesus Christ/Michael) will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel." Meaning over the next nearly 7000 years as this all plays out, Satan would kill Michael as Jesus Christ when he became a man, but he would be resurrected; that represented a bruise in the heel. Christ, however, after the millennium, would permanently destroy Satan in the lake of fire; that represented a fatal blow as the bruise in the head.

Now, follow the gnostic understanding of Satanism. You'll find much Christian artwork thar reflect Satan as a half-snake woman! That is, the gnostic understanding of Satan connects her true identity as the Mother Goddess in paganism, a woman. Satan is even depicted as a woman on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

Satan-woman

FREEMASONIC SATANISM REPRESENTED BY THE TRIANGLE AND PYRAMID: Besides the above, the number THREE, the triangle and the pyramid are more directly connected to Satan by esoteric representation. That is, to be blunt and brief, Satan is depicted in the Bible to have 9 out of the 12 stones that represent Christ. The 12 strones on the breastplate of the high priest representing Jesus Christ is the basis for the square and the cube. When this is transferred to diagramatic images, the 12 stones become the four sides of a square, 3 stones each. Satan, Christ's wife, though, has only nine stones. When those are transferred to diagramatic images you get the trinagle and the pyramid. Thus Satanism is represented by those images and three. 3x3=9 In Freemasonry the marriage as well as the competition ("enmity") between Christ and Satan is represented by the triangle vs. the square where the triangle dominates the square, favoring Satan dominating or winning over Christ.

compass and square

So in Freemasonry, you have again, the holy trinity of God, Christ and Satan, reflecting the two covering cherubs, husband and wife and their special relationship on Mount Zion with God. The "square" of course, represents Christ and the compass, Satan and the triangle. But notice how the compass cuts past and into the square and is above the "G." This simply represents Satan's ego over both God and christ and how Satan was prophesied to bruise Christ in the heel.

In other words, your conclusion that there is an implied trinity between the snake, Adam and Eve is misinterpreted. Or in the case of Revelation where BTG is the harlot riding the wild beast combined with Satan also a non-relevant trinity. What I'm saying is that there are esoteric trinities all around us, but their identities have long been established in the gnostic, esoteric and Satanic world.

Even so, it reflects some very basic realities going back to Eden, which is Christ versus Satan in the presence of God. In the end, Satan is killed and Christ gets a new bride, this one from the earth! Thus Christ's new Bride is the church. JWs associate these with the 144,000, but the 144K are the natural Jews in the covenant making up only 10% of the entire number (Isa. 6:13); the entire number of king-priests that become the wife of Christ, thus replacing Satan on Holy Mount Zion is actually 1,440,000!

All that to say this. Every trinity is not esoterically relevant. You can decide what you want, but it seems illogical to make presumptions without studying esoteric Satanism and Freemasonry.

Finally, speaking of esoteric "genetics", gnosticism of Eden, especially reflecting the curse upon Eve to lust after her husband, suggests that Adam was Black and Eve was white. This reflects the dominance of the male over the female. Thus genetically, blacks carry the dominant genes and whites the recessive genes. Thus a lot of Satanic gnosticism takes on a racist edge with whites using special knowedge provided by Satan to dominate and suppress blacks. The "Mysteries" are thus very white supremacist in nature. Nazism is thus a very indirect form of Satanism.

I could go on and on. I would just like to caution you a bit, that a lot of this is all worked out in minute detail already, so it is a mine field to make any king of generalized presumptions of what might be represented in Scripture, which has a 50/50 chance of meaning nothing. But you definitely touch on something extremely relevant. That is, there are many secrets and hidden representations in the Bible that exist by reading between the lines. That's a good trait to have. That curiosity of the "deeper things of Satan."

Of course, as you might know, I'm Jesus Christ in the flesh now, so it will actually be me who will be tossing Satan into the lake of fire. Satan is incredibly beautiful but she's a b*%tch and won't be missed. Once kicked out of heaven, the angels partied for three whole days! So Satan was a major pain the anus up in heaven. In the meantime, Christ and his new wife made up of gorgeous mankind, whom he fell in love with, will life happily ever after in Heaven. Of note, no chances are taken with the second wife. The elect are tested to the death first to prove their loyalty before Christ is to marry them.

Well, enough about moi for now. Enjoyed your post. When you consider that three, the triangle and the pyramid are directly linked to Satan's identity, you can understand the insult of the "pyramidology" of C.T. Russell in the context of Bible prophecy. You can understand why a seeing-eye pyramid adorns his gravesite, etc. The WTS is now considered to be part of Babylon the Great and fully apostate and Satanic and has been abandoned by God and Christ after removing the true sheep. The WTS as the "false prophet" will thus go off into destruction along with the rest of Christendom, represented by the 666-beast, which by the way converts to the name of "KKK" showing how racist/Satanic Christianity ultimately is. But worry not -- it's all under control, really. Just a matter of a little time (i.e. I'm looking at this year kicking of the millennium on 12/21/12!)

LS

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Facts that are borne out of history that reveals real truth to the few.....

by Me Myself and I in

we are all here i guess because we were once searching for the truth, the real meaning of life, the purpose of life, or whatever craving deep inside of us that needed answers.

we are special, as not all have this inner searching or desire to know or have this need.. we thought the jws were the answer, and myself included carried on for ten full years until the cracks became big enough to fall through and leave the organisation.

however a full six years have elapsed since setting foot in a kingdom hall, yet the craving and spiritual need is still there.. the thirst for answers, and by goodness doesnt the internet connect humankind in such a way that we have access now in this point of human history to the biggest wealth of information and knowledge that could ever be possible.. i have been watching today, with at times, open mouth, to see connections based on true documentations, tv footage etc, of real time events in modern history on youtube, things i have been so ignorant about.

Larsinger58

Here's something else to consider from the video.

Remember how it linked the "KKK" to the Illuminati and how Zionism was part of their plan? Well also recall that in the beginning CT Russell bragged about not needing to collect any donations because some very rich individuals were funding his operation. Also note that he promoted Zionism. Guess who was funding him? The Illuminati! So they were funding CT Russell way back when to promote the idea "Zionism" in the Christian world. And why not? Get Christians to think Zionism was part of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, which it is, and it is easier to take over Palestine! Point being though, that's yet another connection of the WTS to the Illuminati. Of course, the Russell family is very much linked to the Illuminati as we know. The Russells are one of the so-called "13 Illuminati bloodlines." Add the seeing-eye pyramid on the grave of CT Russell, the Zionist agenda of the early WTS (i.e. "Zion's Watchtower"), Russell's family connection to the Illuminati, and the direct funding by the Illuminati of the WTS and you can't remove the idea that the WTS is really part of BTG, thus the command to "Get out of her MY people" indicating at one point their organization would become part of Babylon the Great, which it is now.

Fascinating. But so much prophesied in the Bible!!

LS

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Could the Governing Body be the "Evil Slave" of Matt. 24:48-51?

by matt2414 in

48 but if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, my master is delaying, 49 and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites.

there is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.

" mt 24:48-51 nwt.

Larsinger58

Absolutely! 2 Thess 2 shows that the head of God's own house, his temple, which is the WTS, would become apostate and make itself a god over other gods. The "gods" are the anointed ones of JWs and the GB has made itself a god over them by claiming they are the sole "channel of communication" between God and the congregation. Jehovah did not intend that.

Plus, aren't they harsh with anyone who even breathes anything against them or points out their false teachings? Of course! They are not open to what other anointed ones have to say.

In the real world, at the spiritual level, though, the MOL has to be revealed before the 2nd coming. Turns out it is 45 days before the second coming. The GB was sent a letter notifying them that they were the "evil slave" and the MOL by an anointed prophet, so that fulfilled that prophecy. That anointed prophet, who called himself "the watchman" in the letter turned out to be Jesus Christ himself 45 days later. The letter was sent out on November 10, 1992 and he became the messiah in the flesh on December 25, 1992.

So definitely, the GB of the WTS is the "evil slave", "the rich man", the lamb-dragon beast, the false prophet and the "man of lawlessness." They are not, however, any where near being any "faithful and discreet slave" as they claim to their spiritually sleep members.

LS

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Could the Governing Body be the "Evil Slave" of Matt. 24:48-51?

by matt2414 in

48 but if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, my master is delaying, 49 and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites.

there is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.

" mt 24:48-51 nwt.

Larsinger58

Absolutely! 2 Thess 2 shows that the head of God's own house, his temple, which is the WTS, would become apostate and make itself a god over other gods. The "gods" are the anointed ones of JWs and the GB has made itself a god over them by claiming they are the sole "channel of communication" between God and the congregation. Jehovah did not intend that.

Plus, aren't they harsh with anyone who even breathes anything against them or points out their false teachings? Of course! They are not open to what other anointed ones have to say.

In the real world, at the spiritual level, though, the MOL has to be revealed before the 2nd coming. Turns out it is 45 days before the second coming. The GB was sent a letter notifying them that they were the "evil slave" and the MOL by an anointed prophet, so that fulfilled that prophecy. That anointed prophet, who called himself "the watchman" in the letter turned out to be Jesus Christ himself 45 days later. The letter was sent out on November 10, 1992 and he became the messiah in the flesh on December 25, 1992.

So definitely, the GB of the WTS is the "evil slave", "the rich man", the lamb-dragon beast, the false prophet and the "man of lawlessness." They are not, however, any where near being any "faithful and discreet slave" as they claim to their spiritually sleep members.

LS

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Facts that are borne out of history that reveals real truth to the few.....

by Me Myself and I in

we are all here i guess because we were once searching for the truth, the real meaning of life, the purpose of life, or whatever craving deep inside of us that needed answers.

we are special, as not all have this inner searching or desire to know or have this need.. we thought the jws were the answer, and myself included carried on for ten full years until the cracks became big enough to fall through and leave the organisation.

however a full six years have elapsed since setting foot in a kingdom hall, yet the craving and spiritual need is still there.. the thirst for answers, and by goodness doesnt the internet connect humankind in such a way that we have access now in this point of human history to the biggest wealth of information and knowledge that could ever be possible.. i have been watching today, with at times, open mouth, to see connections based on true documentations, tv footage etc, of real time events in modern history on youtube, things i have been so ignorant about.

Larsinger58

Amazing! Thanks MM&I!!!

Now you can compliment yourself for seeing something so obvious that the WTS doesn't. The WTS is correct that the scarlet-colored wild beast is the U.N. That's obvious, and it must become the 8th world power and rule the world.

But you also can clearly see the hidden influence of the "Illuminati" and their connection to the ancient Mysteries of Babylon and Egypt! Plus you can see the influence of the CFR and the IMF and the Federal Reserve on the world and the U.N., far superior to any formal religious group. Thus BTG is appropriately named if it refers to the Illuminati-spawned secret societies manipulating the world through finance. What it is not is what the WTS calls the "world empire of false religion." I mean, particularly with religious tolerance and the growth of atheism, I'm sure it is very uncomfortable for the UN or the US Congress to still have a prayer from some selected religious group begin things. That is not separation of church and state. Point being, though, that minister quickly scurries off and that's it. There's no influence. Not compared to the world manipulation by the "Illuminati" which is truly the fulfillment of Babylon the Great.

Now since you've given me this gift, I will give you one. Note that the four beasts of Daniel all exist together in the modern age. Anyone can see that if the fourth beast, which is a mysterious beast destroyed by fire, is killed off first and the other three are now just giving up their sovereignty, that they all exist at the same time. This are not successive world powers as many think. Instead, they are very much along the lines of the Trilateral Commission, made up of the primary world markets. The LION represents Japan, the Bear is Russia, and the beast with all the military power is clearly the U.S. So marvel at the Bible's prediction that one nation would end up the hands-down absolute world military superpower! The fourth, mysterious beast that influences the world, of course, is none other than Babylon the Great/Illuminati.

Notice how in Revelation BTG is destroyed by fire by the U.N. If you compare that to the context of the four beasts, the 4th beast is also destroyed by fire but the other three remain after giving up their sovereignty. That's the context of the U.N. finally becoming the 8th king and all the nations giving up sovereignty to the U.N. Now a few years back that might have been doubted, but look at President Obama, now directly engaging the world nations to play a role in and share the finances of its global policing and peace-keeping efforts! The UN doesn't want total sovereignty any more, especially in its international foreign involments. Plus now the U.S. is bankrupt and requires the assistance of the rest of the world to manipulate world events.

The only twist here is that the Illuminati plans to continue its influence over the world via its wealth and control the NWO that way. But the nations of the world are going to confiscate all that drug and arms money and charge the Illuminati with "war crimes" and drug trafficking which is a great legal excuse to confiscate their money. Of course, the only way to do that is to let the U.N. have absolute authority over all the nations in the world, then they can raid those offshore banks and force Switzerland to give up Illuminati funds. All nations need to cooperate if they want to control all banks in the entire world, thus controlling the global economy.

Plus, what a huge temptation, right? The US can't stop talking about their national debt and how they will never be able to pay it back. Well, if you outlaw the Illuminati and the international bankers for manipulating the world into wars and drug trafficking and money laundering, then you can seize their funds like drug agents seize drug money and then use it for their own needs! So ultimately the national debts of all the nations would evaporate into thin air!

Finally, note the "little horn" and its great influence in the world. The "little horn" of the 4th beast has many eyes. Eyes mean intelligence and surveillance. So the little horn is none other than the CIA. Of course, the video implicates CIA involvement in the 9/11 incident. A movie called "The Good Shepherd" shows the CIA was created by "Skull and Bones." So there is no problem linking the Illuminati with the CIA. But the Bible represents that little horn as an agency of the 4th beast, that is, an agency controlled and doing the bidding of the Illuminati. So when international bankers go down, including the Federal Reserve, apparently the CIA will be outlawed as well, likely implicated in all kinds of illegal activities, which is nothing new. We know the CIA assists rebels to help overthrow governments. We know the CIA initiates drugs into communities and then uses the drug money to fund weapons. So it is not like the CIA isn't doing the bidding of the Illuminati.

We know from Revelation that BTG and all its dealings will be laid out and she will be exposed and made naked. The video is part of that exposure! People are labeling it as a "conspiracy theory" (likely Illuminati agents who are the first to claim there is little truth in all this), but all the evidence is there and once taken seriously, who will mourn BTG? The merchants doing business with her will, that's who. But not the nations who join together to destroy her. Already there are protests against the Federal Reserve, etc. So what is prophesied is actually happening.

In the meantime, the WTS, who is now in spiritual darkness and also linked with the Illuminati through CT Russell, the Templars and that pyramid at Russell's tomb, don't recognize Babylon the Great as the Illuminati but think it is the world empire of false religion. But YOU see through that, you can see that BTG is the Illuminati.

Wonderful.

Thanks again for posting the video. I look at the entire thing.

LS

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This good news of the kingdom will be preached ...

by biometrics in

so some of my jw friends can't answer a lot of the questions i put to them.

invariably they end up with the comback line of "this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

" and state that jws are the only ones doing the preaching.. i suspect most jws who've left have come across this.

Larsinger58

This is just for the record for the elect or anyone wanting to know the correct fulfillment.

The "end of the system of things" the Jews had in mind was the same as the end of the "appointed times of the nations" or the "end of the gentile times" which occrred on November 30, 1947 when the Partition Agreement took effect, officially ending Jewish exile and giving them their own country again. Earlier that year, NH Knorr went on a world-wide preaching tour. That was the direct fulfillment, his preaching around the world just before the end of the gentile times in 1947.

So that basically has been fulfilled. JWs were an international organization by 1947 which is all that is required to fulfill this prophecy.

Most and the WTS are so far from getting this right its hopeless they ever will before Armageddon. So prophecy is fulfilled that Jehovah's Day would be one of thick darkness and gloom, with true light being given by Jehovah to his elect and excluding others.

"'Look, you scoffers, wonder and perish, for I am going to do something in your days that you would never believe, even if someone told you in detail.'"

LS

Acts 13:41

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June 15 WT-The F&DS is part of the Woman's Seed!?! WTF!

by serenitynow! in

so on page 8 of the new kool-aid edition the woman's seed of genesis 3:15 is mentioned.

the paragraph says that jesus is the "principal part" of the seed.

they go on to say that the secondary part (since when was there a secondary part .

Larsinger58

This is laughable. All I can do is restate that the GB was "disfellowshipped" on November 10, 1992 and exposed as the "man of lawlessness" at which time they were told they would be cast into spiritual darkness. This is just another example.

In Genesis, the "woman and her seed" is a reference to Satan and her/his followers. Satan is called the "woman" here because Satan is the mated "covering cherub" represented on the ark of the covenant, paired with Michael the archangel, who were on holy Mount Zion and considered to be husband and wife. That is, therefore, Christ's new wife, which comes from anointed ones in the earth, replaces Satan.

When Jehovah said: "I will put enmity between YOU and the woman and between your seed and her seed" he was talking to Jesus Christ, how it would be Christ and his angels vs. Satan and "her" angels. This plays out in Revelation in the final battle in heaven.

It was to Satan that God said: "He (meaning Christ) will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel."

However, getting anybody to realize that Jesus Christ was once married to Satan is way too big of a leap in understanding, way to advanced, much too "new wine" to put into old wineskins, so the current JW understanding simply remains an uncorrected false teaching, giving more evidence of spiritual darkness. There is so much spiritual darkness and barreness now in the WTS that it will be impossible to try to correct them before Armageddon, so all we can do is document the darkness and provide the correct interpretation for those spiritually qualified to accept it.

LS