Posts by 38wastedyears

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The Probabilty of there being an Intelligent Designer

by cantleave in

i have been thinking a great deal about where i stand at this moment in time in terms of a belief in a creator verses a belief in an evolutionary process.

i think the best way to describe it is an exploratory path.

i look at what is around me and i acknowledge it is remarkable.

38wastedyears

What puzzles me is : does the rejection of an abusive organisation have to entail the rejection of a creator in whom we, having been deceived by the WTS but not being totally stupid, had believed wholeheartedly ?

The thing for me is, I never DID believe wholeheardtedly in God. I started questioning the whole idea of a God when I was about 3, and even then, I wondered where HE came from. If you go by the logic of "Everything that exists had to be created", then who created God? It has always, and will always, come back to that for me. When I left, I was finally able to accept my true beliefs and give up on this idea of a god that I had lived with my entire life. I didn't reject God simply because I wanted to reject the WTS.

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Help wanted with a WT quote, please

by ThomasCovenant in

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am i imagining it it or is there a quote in the wt something like .

'trust without doubt what the society says' ?.

vague, i know.

38wastedyears

http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/jehovahs-witnesses/quotes-regarding-watchtower-organization-and-salvation This page has quite a few of the quotres about not questioning things they say.

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Have you ever say the word f you to the elders? Do you know others that has done it before?

by asilentone in

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38wastedyears

If I should ever have to deal with another elder telling me I should or shouldn't do something...a good "f*ck you* will probably be included in the conversation for sure.

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swearing-foul language

by megaflower in

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as a good dub i never used any four letter words (i just thought them).

its not that way anymore.

if you no longer consider yourselve a witness do you swear, curse.

38wastedyears

I cussed a lot when I was a JW. Not around any other JW's, though, except for a few of my friends who all did, too.

Now, I swear all the time. Seriously, it's very rare for an hour to go by in my house without one swear word or another. They're just words. They hold the power you give to them, and that's it.

So yeah, I swear all the fucking time.

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Remember When Jehovah's Witnesses Took Pride In Themselves?

by minimus in

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there was a time when a witness would proudly tell others that they were jehovah's witnesses.

now, more jws skirt away from expressing what they are and who they represent.

in the old days, you could comment at a meeting and express the research you did on a subject.

38wastedyears

Pride? No, I don't remember when JWs took pride in themselves. I was always embarrassed to tell others I was a JW. It feels better now that I can say "I used to be one, but not anymore."

I never told anyone I was a JW unless I absolutely had to for some reason. Now, I tell everyone I used to be one, haha. It's no problem to talk about now.

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Twilight movies

by darnkid in

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does anyone know exactly what the society has said on the twilight movies?

is it a matter of conscience or a real no-no?

my children are witnesses, i am df'd so i can't say anything, but one of them indulges in these movies and books-the baptized one who won't visit me or talk to me unless absolutely necessary.

38wastedyears

I've been wondering about this, too, because I've seen a lot of JW's on Facebook with Twilight related pages on their profiles...I know that there is no way my parents would have allowed them in the house or let me read them. In fact, I was still living at home when I read the first book, and I remember holing up in my room to read it so it wouldn't be seen.

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conventions on jw.org

by bereanbiblestudent in

the watchtower site added a new function called lookup to find where the conventions are held and when.. do they not tell that at the kingdom hall?.

38wastedyears

Do you have a link? I glanced around the site but couldn't find it anywhere.

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Traces of hypnosis in the new song book ?!?!?!

by EndofMysteries in

i just said another startling insight!

after seeing it in so many songs, it finally clicked when i was checking song #97, old one #43.. now for those who have heard, the songs are super mellow now, the flow is....soothing.

at the district convention almost chanting like.

38wastedyears

Yeah, the songs, the repeating of the same scriptures over and over again, the talks and articles are always recycled and reused...it's just to drive it all in. The more they tell you it, the more you believe it. Honestly, if I hadn't become inactive for a while, I might not have been able to leave, because when your mind is that programmed you can't just think about anything else.

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I have changed sides

by AK - Jeff in

almost imperceptible over time in some areas.. almost everything i ever believed, i have proven to be false.

almost every bit of my deep seated faith is uprooted by reason.. i am not bitter.

but i am quite reflective these days of how much i have changed.

38wastedyears

I could have written that almost word for word...it's interesting, huh?

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The new "Find a Brother" arrangement - I went to the meeting for the first time in months tonight

by slimboyfat in

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i went to the meeting for the first time in months tonight.

during the announcements the presiding overseer mentioned that the "find a brother" arrangement was being moved from wednesday nights to saturday afternoon.

what in the name of god is a "find a brother" arrangement?

38wastedyears

Is it really? I would be both surprised and not surprised at all, honestly. The changes they've made just since I left have blown my mind.