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3 Things You Should Know About Islam

by onemore in

jw
friends

15 years ago

....watch the video, what if we were to substitute the word islam (in the video) for watchtowerism.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbptzalqfy.

13 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

52 The False Prophet

THE 42 MONTHS

"Isn't it wonderful to know that by permitting the temple's total destruction, God protected His Holy of Holies from the desecration of having a memorial to a false god, and the false prophet, built over it? Of more importance, if the Moslems had not built on the wrong rock, it would be impossible for this next quote to be fulfilled. Now look carefully at the language and see how perfectly it fits the situation on the temple mount today: Rev 11:2- But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Leave out the court ... it has been given to the Gentiles!

The Dome of the Rock is in the court, and it is a Gentile structure. So we now have the location. Then we read that the city of Jerusalem itself would be under Gentile control for 42 months. Farfetched as it may sound, could those 42 months be months of days that should be looked at as years? It was day=years in the Old Testament, and there is no Scripture anywhere that does away with that interpretation, so lets at least try for a historic fit using day=years. When do they begin and when do they end? We need a historic setting.

On the 6th day of June, 1967, at the end of the Six-Day War, General Moshe Dayan and a tough, battle-hardened contingent of Israeli commandos stood before a wall of ancient stones. Their shoulders were shaking, and tears were streaming down their faces. They were at the Wailing Wall in East Jerusalem, that Holy Place from which they had been exiled so many centuries before. They were crying thanks unto God for restoring their ancient city to them. There they solemnly swore: ?Never again shall we be driven from this place.? For the first time in 2573 years the Jews were again in control of their Holy City. Could that touching moment be the historic end of, and they [the Gentiles] will tread
under foot the Holy City for 42 months??

The Wrong Rock 53

A Solar year is 365.24 days. Dividing those days by the12 months in a year gives us a monthly duration of 30.44 days. 42 months x 30.44 gives us roughly 1278.5 days:1 1967AD - 1278.5 = 688.5AD ... the Dome of the Rock!
Bulls eye! In the 1290 days of Dan 12, the Lord took us from 583BC, and the abolition of sacrifices in Daniel?s time, to 688AD and the Abomination that makes Desolate, the Dome of the Rock. Then in the 42 months, the Lord shows us the accuracy of that interpretation. He takes us from the restoration of Jerusalem in 1967, right back to 688, and the Dome of the Rock.

54 The False Prophet

We come to 688, and that dome from both directions, right to the year. As a result, from the Lord?s view, the central event to take place in Jerusalem during the time of the Gentiles was the building of the Abomination of Desolation on the footstool of His feet. And it is not just the numbers that work. Look at how this fits the very words of Scripture:
(1) Sacrifices abolished.
(2) Abomination set up.
(3) Leave out the court.
(4) Holy city tread under foot for 42 months.
This many factors coming together can'?t be just a numerical or verbal fluke, can they? Writing it off as coincidence is statistically unreasonable, and there are other fulfillments using the same yardstick still to come.........

http://www.ellisskolfield.com/pdf/TFPChapters1-9.pdf

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religious tolerance

by booby in

15 years ago

i was walking across a bridge one day, and i saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off.

so i ran over and said "stop!

" he said.. "well, there's so much to live for!".

15 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

No point in mentioning names, but you all know who they are.

"The only thing to prevent evil from happening is for good people to do nothing."

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religious tolerance

by booby in

15 years ago

i was walking across a bridge one day, and i saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off.

so i ran over and said "stop!

" he said.. "well, there's so much to live for!".

15 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

What is your opinion of people on this board that are "alternative life-style advocates" of the above?

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religious tolerance

by booby in

15 years ago

i was walking across a bridge one day, and i saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off.

so i ran over and said "stop!

" he said.. "well, there's so much to live for!".

15 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

More God is Love and and religious tolerance

Several years ago I read a book concerning ritual satanic activities that just made your skin crawl. There was a forward by Geraldo Rivera. Disposal of the evidence was one of the key factors of it's success. As we read here, there is wall of protection for the criminals that makes a direct connection to free-masonry and other secret societies that at the top echelons are pure satanic, hence the terrible initiation oaths.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5879984008309393910#

PAEDOPHILIA AND SATANISM ...... THE FABRIC OF THE WEB

By David Icke

"This is a newsletter I wrote some weeks ago that I am now releasing to a wider audience because of its fundamental relevance to current events.

Please circulate far and wide. This is the link to send …

http://www.davidicke.com/articles/child-abuse-mainmenu-74/31148-paedophilia-and-satanism--the-fabric-of-the-web

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I have had countless surprises and many shocks as I have lifted the stone and seen what horrors lie beneath, but few more than the scale of child abuse and Satanism. And that's the word - scale. The fact that it is happening is one thing, but to realise how widespread and fundamental it is to establishment power all over the world was truly shocking. I have talked with people in the best part of 50 countries in my research of this subject, the abused, the insiders who know the abusers, and those who have dedicated their lives to exposing this evil.

Put it all together and the situation is as clear as can be: paedophilia and Satanism are the cement that hold the establishment control structure together in every country, and these 'national' networks connect together to form a global network of paedophiles and Satanists all watching each others' backs - while they continue to serve the Control System. If anyone wants to get out or refuses to take orders they know the consequences - 'suicide' or exposure.

Governments around the world are being controlled by the bloodline cabal via paedophile and Satanist politicians and 'leaders' who dare not resist the demands of the Shadow People who have the evidence that would destroy them. A few weeks ago a document came to light in Australia purporting to be a 'death bed confession' by a leading Satanist from the 'top' coven/lodge in Sydney. It certainly rang true because what it said is supported by my 15 years research into these matters. It said:

'Politicians are introduced by a carefully graded set of criteria and situations that enable them to accept that their victims will be, "Our little secret". Young children sexually molested and physically abused by politicians worldwide are quickly used as sacrifices. In Australia the bodies are hardly ever discovered, for Australia is still a wilderness.'

In more crowded locations the Satanists and paedophiles (the two networks are fundamentally connected) have crematoria to 'lose' the evidence of child sacrifice and murder. People don't realise how organised it all is. Satanists and paedophiles (and those doing their bidding in pursuit of power, money and sheer survival) are placed in the key public offices to hide their activities. I am talking presidents and prime ministers, too. I have been naming the former British Prime Minister, the now late ..................."

YEHEZQEL 8 - http://www.eliyah.com/thescriptures/

"And it came to be in the sixth year, in the sixth month, on the fifth of the month, as I sat in my house with the elders of Yehudah sitting before me, that the hand of the Master Yahweh fell upon me there. 2And I looked and saw a likeness, like the appearance of fire. From His waist and downward the appearance was like fire, and from His waist and upward the appearance of brightness, like glowing metal. 3And He stretched out the form of a hand, and took me by a lock of my hair. And the Spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heavens, and brought me in visions of Elohim to Yerushalayim, to the door of the north gate of the inner court, where the seat of the image of jealousy was, which causes jealousy. 4And see, the esteem of the Elohim of Yisra’el was there, like the vision that I saw in the plain. 5And He said to me, “Son of man, please lift your eyes toward the north.” And I lift- ed my eyes northward, and north of the altar gate I saw this image of jealousy in the entrance. 6And He said to me, “Son of man, do you see what they are doing, the great abominations which the house of Yisra’el are doing here, driving Me away from My set-apart place? And you are to see still greater abominations.” 7Then He brought me to the door of the court. And I looked and saw a hole in the wall. 8And He said to me, “Son of man, please dig into the wall.” And when I dug into the wall I saw a door. And He said to me, “Go in, and see the evil abominationsc which they are doing there.” 10And I went in and looked and saw all kinds of creeping creatures, abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Yisra’el, carved all around on the walls. 11And facing them stood seventy men of the elders of the house of Yisra’el, and in their midst stood Ya'azanyahu son of Shaphan. Each one had a censer in his hand, and a thick cloud of incense went up. 12And He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the elders of the house of Yisra’el are doing in the dark, each one in the room of his idols? For they say, ‘Yahweh does not see us, Yahweh has forsaken the land.’ ” 13And He said to me, “You are to see still greater abominations which they are doing.” 14And He brought me to the door of the north gate of the House of Yahweh, and I saw women sitting there, weeping for Tammuz. 15Then He said to me, “Have you seen this, O son of man? You are to see still greater abominations than these.” 16And He brought me into the inner court of the House of Yahweh. And there, at the door of the Hekal of Yahweh, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men with their backs toward the Hekal of Yahweh and their faces toward the east, and they were bowing themselves eastward to the sun. 17And He said to me, “Have you seen, O son of man? Is it a small matter to the house of Yehudah to do the abominations which they have done here? For they have filled the land with violence, and turn back to provoke Me. And see, they are putting the branch to My nose. 18“Therefore I shall indeed deal in wrath. My eye shall not pardon nor would I spare. And they shall cry in My ears with a loud voice, but I shall not hear them.”

"Nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9

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Liberal or Conservative?

by alice.in.wonderland in

15 years ago

liberal or conservative?.

i see myself as a moderate, not just because of political neutrality but because the two ideologies have their strengths and inherit weaknesses.. http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/other/conservative-vs-liberal-beliefs/.

conservatives - believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional american values and a strong national defense.

15 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

The Flip-Flop System

"The Two-Party System has evolved into the Flip-Flop System. The American voters in all their wisdom have modified this system in order to keep the politicians off balance, so everyone may have the opportunity to have their cake and eat it too.

Of course, we know that you can't have your cake and eat it too; but, this being America, what with freedom of choice and all, we should all have the equal opportunity to try. Well, the politicians can play that game too, and so they have also brought about a regime change that affords them the opportunity to change the rules at any point in the game. So now we really have a fair system. It's called the Flip-Flop System. The two parties do the flip-flop whenever the voters ask for change.

Change is good in a democracy, in the same way the Gecko character said in the movie WALL STREET, that greed is good for the stock market. Change creates opportunity for the have-nots to become the haves. And since the haves already have it, it's a win-win situation for everyone. For example, we all believe in keeping America safe against the terrorists and those people who hate us for no reason whatsoever. In one election, the Republicans win by declaring war on terror and the next election the Democrats win by declaring peace against the terrorists. As we all know from our Vietnam War experience that we can win the peace by declaring that the war has been lost.

This is not just a matter of semantics. We've been successful in flip-flopping between winning the war and winning the peace in many arenas. We fought the alcohol industry during the prohibition, and then we repealed the law so people could sell alcohol again. When they asked Elliott Ness, in the movie version of the story, what he was going to do now that the Prohibition was over, he replied,

"I'll go have a drink."

Voters flip-flop all the time. In the 2004 Election, the Republicans won both Houses of Congress. In the 2006 election, the Democrats won both Houses of Congress. The Republicans chanted, "flip-flop, flip-flop," in the Republican Convention of 2004. Now, the Republicans are joining the Democrats against the War on Terror and the Democrats are joining the Republicans against Amnesty for the Mexicans who enter the US to pick fruit and vegetables so Americans can afford to feed their families.

The Democrats are now turning Conservative and the Republicans are turning Liberal. Ted Kennedy joined John McCain to introduce the Bill for Amnesty, and to see them both defeated is ironic. Is Amnesty for the Mexican farm laborers, who enter the US illegally to work the fields, a Liberal or Conservative issue?

Well, we know from studying statistics that the Mexican-Americans have contributed to the defense of the US more soldiers and heroes, and have won more medals in major wars than any other immigrant group in US history. This is also true with the Vietnam War and the present War on Terror. However, not many of us know that most of these heroes were and are the children of illegal aliens, who didn't enter the US to break the law but to work. Moreover, the Mexican-Americans have intermixed better with the Native American culture and they are culturally more akin to Americans in general. So which is it going to be, give the Mexicans amnesty to stay and work or deport them and build a wall to keep them out? Which is the Conservative and which is the Liberal stance?......................"

http://www.v-a.com/flip-flop_system.htm

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religious tolerance

by booby in

15 years ago

i was walking across a bridge one day, and i saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off.

so i ran over and said "stop!

" he said.. "well, there's so much to live for!".

15 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

Would the plans at ground zero to build a mosque be a 2nd abomination being built on the ruins of an icon on another rock?

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/1290_days.htm

Another Mosque at Ground Zero Issue
Which is better Islam or Atheism?
Aug. 23, 2010 Ramadan is for fasting - a Muslim holiday; asking forgiveness for sins. If Ramadan is being celebrated in the White House, why is it a problem to celebrate Ramadan at Ground Zero?
http://www.v-a.com/
How the Vatican created Islam. The astonishing story from an ex-Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera,
which was told to him by Cardinal Bea while he was at the Vatican.
By Alberto Rivera | cloakanddagger.de
Article from: http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/744/48/
Tie all the above together with the fact that there are no Protestants on the Supreme Court - Religious tolerance?
I don't think so.

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Article on disfellowshipping by Mrs C.T.R in 1887 Watchtower

by Aussie Oz in

15 years ago

cruising through the 1887 wt i came accross this that i found of interest that as far back as 1887 the wt was sanctioning the act of disfellowshipping.

whether it included the practice of full blown shunning at that time is not eveident in the pages i have looked through yet.. watchtower 1887 page 954 ''discipline in the church''.

such is part of the painful duty of the present hour.

15 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

Shalom Oz -

df'g among Bible Students is very rare and always has been - except for the small remnant who became da judge's dubs

I only know of one case. And they just went to another ecclesia like nothing ever happened.

Here's the rest of the quote -

".........We should not bring any small or trifling matter before the Church. It is my judgment that three-fourths of the things that are brought to my attention--matters of this kind--had better be dropped; and nothing at all be done with them. However, there might be an exception in case the matter had gone beyond the individual, and had somehow involved the whole congregation. In such event, it might be impossible to deal with the matter in an individual way. Then the Elders might constitute themselves into a Board or Committee, and get one of their number to look into the case and see if the wrong could not be stopped, or adjusted. When the matter gets beyond the individual, we have no advice beyond the Word of God. Let us be careful not to become like Babylon, and hold inquisition and mix ourselves up. The Word of God is our sufficiency, and we should follow it closely and thereby avoid confusion."

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Article on disfellowshipping by Mrs C.T.R in 1887 Watchtower

by Aussie Oz in

15 years ago

cruising through the 1887 wt i came accross this that i found of interest that as far back as 1887 the wt was sanctioning the act of disfellowshipping.

whether it included the practice of full blown shunning at that time is not eveident in the pages i have looked through yet.. watchtower 1887 page 954 ''discipline in the church''.

such is part of the painful duty of the present hour.

15 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

What Pastor Russell Said p 479

Meetings Elders in Court of Inquiry Questions 1916

"Is it proper for the elders to sit at a court of inquiry and cite any supposed to be walking in a disorderly manner to appear before them and explain their conduct?" Or should the Lord's advice at Matt 18:15-18 be followed?

Answer - "I agree with the suggestion of the question that it should be handled in harmony with the Lord's direction in the passage cited. The Lord's word does not authorize any court of the Elders, or anyone else, to become busybodies. THis would be going back to the practices of the Dark Ages during the inquisition; and we would be showing the same spirit as did the inquisitors. The Lord has put the matter in a simple way and we could not improve upon it......We should remember the word of the Lord which says, 'The Lord will judge his people.' If he should need any punishment, we may trust the Lord to give it to him and not take the matter into our own hands. We should have confidence in the Lord. If we can stop the wrong that is as far as we can go. But if the wrong doer should persist in his wrong-doing and not repent, and if the matter should be of sufficient importance, then we are to bring the matter to the attention of the of the Church for correction. We should not bring any small or trifling matter. It is my judgment that 3/4 of the things which are brought to my attention - had better be dropped."

http://www.ctrussell.us/

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The meaning of Jesus' death, without Paul

by Doug Mason in

15 years ago

i want to ask a couple of serious questions.

hopefully the number of minds will clarify this for me.. .

1. if we ignore the writings by paul and those attributed to him, would we get the idea that the death of jesus was intended to be a substitutionary payment for another person's sin?.

15 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

I believe Peter is speaking of being obedient to Messiah's Scriptural fulfilment and teaching rather than mangled wtbt$$-like traditions.

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Reinstatement-Curent elders please reply

by truthlover in

15 years ago

while being reinstated several months ago -- no restriction were given other than no commenting - service was allowed - getting over the average for the cong, not missing meetings - its been months now and the brother met recently with someof the jc members - they praised his hours and meeting attendance but because his lessons are not completely underlined, and he does make notes during the meeting, he has not been allowed to still make comments and become a fully active member of the congregation as they say this note taking is causing a problem with other members of the congregation.. have you even heard of anything so off the wall?

is this the way its done in most cong??

he thought if someone was interested enough to listen and make notes of a good point in their mags, it would be something to be referred to in the future... i know i have seen folks doing this while the lesson is being read.... .

15 years ago

freydo 15 years ago

What a sick organization

Why are newspapers et al not filled with stories that just lambaste this kind of abuse?

What does commenting at meetings have to do with the Bible?

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