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  "Bearing Thorough Witness"--page 98, par. 13; Compare p. 103, par. 9, 10, 12

  by sd-7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i find the same old same old in the newest publications.

  here's a little sampling, from my now-favorite work of bible-based fantasy, "bearing thorough witness" about [the governing body].

  note page 98, paragraph 13:.

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  peacedog

  "even if the NWT is accurate--and for all I know, it may well be"

  It's not.

  BeDuhn's big thing as I recall was John 1:1 and the "a god" translation and he's latched onto the NWT on account of that. He seems to have a real hard on for Jesus being only "a god".

  The mistranslations in the NWT go way, way beyond John 1:1 though, and from what I've read from BeDuhn, he ignores them all.

  There are some simply brutal translations in the NWT that would not be even conceivable were it not for pre-existing WT doctrine. I can't tell you why BeDuhn seems ignorant of these verses.
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  Why I Don't Believe In Demons...

  by Tuesday in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wasn't going to post this video but alot of people are finding it funny online so i figured i'd share..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwezb1donc0.

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  peacedog

  I wonder how many JWs have mistaken sleep paralysis for "demon attacks"™

  Sleep paralysis occurs when the brain awakes from a REM state, but the body paralysis persists. This leaves the person fully conscious, but unable to move. The paralysis can last from several seconds to several minutes "after which the individual may experience panic symptoms and the realization that the distorted perceptions were false".
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  Anyone seen Gran Torino?

  by John Doe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the new clint eastwood movie.

  i watched it last night, and thought it was pretty good..

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  peacedog

  I liked it too.
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  what did you do after leaving or separating from JW's in regards to religion?

  by kriptonian7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been struggling to find my place.

  i still consider my self christian...but the more i have been learning about my old faith, its been making me feel like i need to find something else that makes sense to me.. i know im not aethiest.

  i have always felt that there was a higher power out there.. agnostic?

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  peacedog

  After getting out I felt I 'owed it to myself' to give the bible and Christianity another chance. I bought a non-JW bible, realized it made much more sense than the NWT, realized that it probably did teach traditional Christian doctrine: Jesus is God, man has a soul/spirit element, etc, etc. After reaching my own conclusions about what the bible said, I found a church that taught what I believed and I attended there for a few years.

  But as time goes by, I find myself more and more doubting the validity of the bible (for various reasons) and see my beliefs moving more into the realm of agnostism. I do believe in a higher power of some sort but I believe it more likely that said higher power doesn't give a rats ass about us earthlings. If he/she/it did, why all the suffering? I wouldn't allow my cat or dog to suffer the way people suffer in this world, and yet the omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent God of the bible, the "God of love" allows it...
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  New understanding of the Generation??

  by Newborn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  apparently jack barr, member of the gb, has given a new interpretation of the generation in one of his speaches i.e.

  that the generation can apply to those who knew someone who lived in 1914..... will it never end????

  it's embarassing!

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  peacedog

  "Jack Barr is born in 1913, just for the record. Baptised 1932, in the administration since 1939"

  Also, he's an idiot. Just for the record.
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  Will Michael Jacksons Mom be DF'd ???

  by tresdecu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jackson family to host first christmasmichael jackson's family is to hold christmas celebrations for the first time this year (09) - putting their own religious beliefs aside for the superstar's three children.. the jacksons were all brought up as jehovah's witnesses, a christian-based religion which does not recognise birthdays or christmas.

  but the thriller hitmaker deviated from his family's belief system and always enjoyed the holiday season with prince michael, 12, paris, 11, and seven-year-old prince michael ii.

  and family matriarch katherine jackson, who has full custody of the kids, is determined to put their former traditions aside in december (09) to keep the youngsters' lives as normal as possible.

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  "Methinks there are different rules for the wealthy"

  And for angeleyes... :p
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  Watchtower Ban In Russia Could Be Very Good

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  currently, various groups are in trouble in russia.

  and what is the nature of the emerging persecution?

  http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/22/2007/2448.

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  peacedog

  bttt.

  Great post.
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  Russian JWs in Serious Trouble - about to be banned

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  although it has been leading up to this for a long time, it appears russia has made up their mind to get rid of "extremist" groups by banning them, and jws are pretty much at the top of the list.

  the last few years under putin they have been giving them heaps of trouble.. .

  i am not for bans as it usually backfires, but under the "new" admnistration it looks like hard-core responses are in order.

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  "I think there are better ways to deal with this than banning the entire religion outright."

  jonathan, I sort of agree with you on this. I mentioned previously that I think the religion ought to be banned until necessary reforms are made. But unless and until those reforms are made, I support the religion being under ban.
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  Russian JWs in Serious Trouble - about to be banned

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  although it has been leading up to this for a long time, it appears russia has made up their mind to get rid of "extremist" groups by banning them, and jws are pretty much at the top of the list.

  the last few years under putin they have been giving them heaps of trouble.. .

  i am not for bans as it usually backfires, but under the "new" admnistration it looks like hard-core responses are in order.

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  Billy said: "Freedom of worship ends where child sacrifice begins"

  This is the point I was trying to make earlier in the thread. I think it's safe to safe everyone here is on the side of free speech. But freedoms can only extend so far. I also draw the line at child sacrifice.

  Sunspot said: "If only the door-to-door work could be curtailed so that innocent and uninformed folks would not be sucked into the WTS deliberate and clever methodical indoctrination program without a clue as to where it is all leading them until it is too late!"

  I agree wholeheartedly. Being under ban should go a long way towards accomplishing this. I'd like to see other governments follow suit, at least until such time as the WT$ reforms.

  jonathan dough said: "Now, just to qualify what I said, I also think they are a Jones Town cult even though they don't know it. When THAT line has been crossed, I would hope the government does the right thing and steps in before it is too late. It's not there yet."

  They've already crossed a line, the line of child sacrifice.
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  Russian JWs in Serious Trouble - about to be banned

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  although it has been leading up to this for a long time, it appears russia has made up their mind to get rid of "extremist" groups by banning them, and jws are pretty much at the top of the list.

  the last few years under putin they have been giving them heaps of trouble.. .

  i am not for bans as it usually backfires, but under the "new" admnistration it looks like hard-core responses are in order.

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  >> You can't be for free speech and freedom of religion and turn around and think they should be banned.

  Generally speaking I am a proponent of free speech; however, I consider the WT$ to be a hate group and a dangerous cult, so yes, for those reasons I think the group should be banned.

  Freedoms can extend only so far...

  I didn't say anything about religion.