Hi Aussie
Im from Sydney - Previously lived in Perth and Melbourne.
Been a JW all my life until 3 months ago - Never going back!!!
i'd like to know who you all are on the board.. you dont have to identify yourself personaly as i understand some need to be ingocnito.
i am also curious to see if any of my old childhood and adult life friends have made it onto here.. me: lived in ballarat 70s, naracoorte in the 80s, adelaide in the 90s.
traveled to york w.a as a teen and to alice springs and brisbane early twenties.. of course, if you need to be silent, thats fine too!
Hi Aussie
Im from Sydney - Previously lived in Perth and Melbourne.
Been a JW all my life until 3 months ago - Never going back!!!
my daughter has been accepted into a school for gifted and talented kids.
at this school their aim is to teach kids higher level thinking skills and applications and have extensive exposure to problem solving.
(sounds great) this will be achieved by teaching specific thinking skills from art costa - habits of mind and edward debonos - six thinking hat.
My daughter has been accepted into a school for Gifted and Talented kids. At this school their aim is to teach kids higher level thinking skills and applications and have extensive exposure to problem solving. (sounds great) This will be achieved by teaching specific thinking skills from Art Costa - Habits of Mind and Edward DeBonos - six thinking hat. I have never heard of these books before, but will be buying copies of them to read myself. I was just wondering if anyone has read/studied them - I would appreciate your comments.
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i havent been to a meeting for over 3 months now, i wanted to do a slow fade, going to a meeting everynow and then just to keep the elders of my back but couldnt face going to another meeting..... anyway my daughter still is attending the meetings, and in that time that i have not been there no one has asked her how i am, until last night at the meeting an elder comes up to her and asks her why i havent been to the meetings, and if he and a new elder in the cong can come over tonight and talk to me!!!!!
i couldnt believe it when she told me!!!!!
!how sneaky are they to try and organize through my daughter to come and see me, you would think that they would ring me and talk directly to me, i was so mad, that i felt like ringing up the elder and telling him exactly what i thought of him, but decided it was not a good idea incase i started going on about "apostate stuff" i tend to get bit carried away when i am angry........ .
blondie - thanks for that, good idea. Somehow i dont think they will call if they had to go thru my daughter.
i havent been to a meeting for over 3 months now, i wanted to do a slow fade, going to a meeting everynow and then just to keep the elders of my back but couldnt face going to another meeting..... anyway my daughter still is attending the meetings, and in that time that i have not been there no one has asked her how i am, until last night at the meeting an elder comes up to her and asks her why i havent been to the meetings, and if he and a new elder in the cong can come over tonight and talk to me!!!!!
i couldnt believe it when she told me!!!!!
!how sneaky are they to try and organize through my daughter to come and see me, you would think that they would ring me and talk directly to me, i was so mad, that i felt like ringing up the elder and telling him exactly what i thought of him, but decided it was not a good idea incase i started going on about "apostate stuff" i tend to get bit carried away when i am angry........ .
I havent been to a meeting for over 3 months now, i wanted to do a slow fade, going to a meeting everynow and then just to keep the elders of my back but couldnt face going to another meeting..... Anyway my daughter still is attending the meetings, and in that time that i have not been there no one has asked her how i am, until last night at the meeting an elder comes up to her and asks her why i havent been to the meetings, and if he and a new elder in the cong can come over tonight and talk to me!!!!! I couldnt believe it when she told me!!!!!!How sneaky are they to try and organize through my daughter to come and see me, you would think that they would ring me and talk directly to me, I was so mad, that i felt like ringing up the elder and telling him exactly what i thought of him, but decided it was not a good idea incase i started going on about "apostate stuff" i tend to get bit carried away when i am angry........
Now I am waiting to see if he calls me........ and thanks to all the advice ive read on this board, i will know exactly what to say to them to stop them coming aroud - but will still have a go at them for the underhanded way they acted!! Im looking forward to that bit (hehehe) :)
nearlyfree
when i was a teenager i extensively studied nearly every publication.
i especially enjoyed looking up the root words meanings in the hebrew and greek of the bible language.
it gave me the flavor of a word and its origins.
no.... but I had to look like I did so I used to do the watchtower by reading the question first and then skimming the paragraph for the answer. Could do a study article in about 10 minutes. Same for the bookstudy as well!! Its was always the same boring crap. Sometimes i didnt even bother doing that and used to underline a few lines in each paragraph - usually the middle - as thats where most of the answers were most of the time.
nf.
yes, i do!
i did it 20 years ago, but the elders still remember what i did, sometimes i wish they never knew about it.
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okay Gregor, without going into to much detail - i had a JC about 17 years ago....... my ex's was a year and half ago. Two sepearte issues his was for imorality mine was not. Im fading fast - as for him i dont know what his thoughts are or if he is still in or not..
Hope that clears things up for you :)
i guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
Hi Oompa - my heart goes out to you. I know things feel realy bad at the moment and the pain is all consuming and unbearable.... but it does get better and life will get better. It is early days yet, and life has a funny way of turning out, not as we expect, but nevertheless sometimes better than we expect. In the meantime though - keep positive and look after your self :)
yes, i do!
i did it 20 years ago, but the elders still remember what i did, sometimes i wish they never knew about it.
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Yes definately, i had no choice as i was dobbed in by my ex, within minutes of telling my hubby of my sins! he was on the phone setting up a comittee case ( come to think of it now - i think he wanted me to be DF which i wasnt). When it was his turn - he begged me not to tell the elders, i gave him 2 weeks . I think it was harder for him as he was a MS. - Oh the Shame!!! ( he didnt get DF either)
i apologize if this has been mentioned, but i don't have the time to come on here as often.
yesterday's bookstudy on divorce got my shorts in a bit of a knot.
apparently, according to the god's love book, a wife could consider legal separation from her husband if she is physically abused, but (get this) only in the case of extreme physical abuse, and if the wife's life is in danger.
I cant believe that they encourage wives to stay with their husbands - its criminal. I grew up with a father who was emotioanlly abusive with us kids and mum and swore to myself that if my hubby ever him me i would leave him. Well one time he did and what did i do...... I turned around and bashed him over the head with a plate, ( good memory) but should have left him, becuase he was verbally, mentaly and emotionaly abuse to me, and i stayed!!! ( yes i was a JW idiot)
This kind of abuse is just as bad if not worse than physical abuse because the bruises are not visible - and in my case no one would believe me as he was a MS. Anyway the second time he hit me was after we had split up - i reported to the police, took him to court, got an AVO out against him, and have never been more proud of myself for finally standing up to him. I will never let myself be subjected to that kind of treatment ever again and never let anyone tell me what Im supposed to put up with or not . I feel sorry for those sisters ( or brothers)who are putting up with abusive relationships and feel/told the right thing to do is to stay and put up with it - it doesnt make sense.!!!! They need to take action - not stay and put up with more abuse!!!!
i typed in:.
jehovah's witnesses .
and it came back:.
This website is so cool........... heres a few i did - the last one is interesting!!!!!
webuser: my name
sternest: Jar as antiknock.
. webuser: my ex
sternest: Not junk a psychoanal
webuser: special pioneer
sternest: Coarse pipeline.
webuser: giliead graduate
sternest: Ideal, aged guitar.
webuser: pioneer school
sternest: Nice hero loops.
webuser: ministerial servant
sternest: I am transient silver.
webuser: presiding overseer
sternest: Deprive regression.
webuser: special assembly day
sternest: Measly as despicably.
webuser: district convention
sternest: Strident conviction.
webuser: memorial evening
sternest: Grim, mean Evil one.
And the best one yet....................
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webuser: elder
sternest: You don't make sense. (Message is too short.)
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