Posts by ILTSF

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Is Smoking Pot Harmful?

by minimus in

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do you think it's bad?

is it no different than alcohol?

a little in moderation is ok?.

ILTSF

shamus- Do you really feel it's not the least bit helpful, to anyone?

recovering- Can we please have some sources? There's a lot of very strong statements you made that definitely need something to back them up.

Personally, I feel that it's far safer than alcohol in large amounts. You can literally smoke pounds of weed without effect, but the same amount of alcohol would definitely catch up to you very quickly. There's a ton of myths and misconceptions about weed, and all the propaganda doesn't help. It should be legalized and people should be allowed to choose to use it responsibly, the same as you do with alcohol.

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Documentary...Has anyone proposed doing a documentary on leaving the JW and life after?

by tjlibre in

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i have an idea for a project which i would like create or contribute to in the future.

this is what i have in mind.

present a brief story of the jw movement, who they are, what are their core believes, etc.

ILTSF

I haven't though about making a documentary, but if somebody did I would be interested/willing to get involved however possible. I've thought before about what I can do that would really make a different and have an impact, it just usually seems like me against millions of people, y'know?

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Why Do Americans Live Shorter Lives Yet Spend So Much for Health Care ???

by RubaDub in

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every time i see statistics comparing average lifespans amoung countries, why is the usa so far down the list???.

with susposedly the best healthcare in the world (for those who can afford it), the last study i saw ranked the usa at number 38 in the world.

yet, we spend 4, 5 or even 10 times more per person on health care than most others.. what gives ???.

ILTSF

"Let's face it...a good many 'Mercans don't exactly eat right or exercise. They smoke too much, drink too much, they eat shit 3 times a day, they eat junk in-between and don't ever bother to get regular check-ups."

Other countries smoke and drink as much as we do and eat nearly as bad. Yes, we eat shit here...but that's not the root of the problem. I don't "bother" to get regular check-ups because I can't even afford to go to the doctor when I'm SICK.

This is a great chart I found a while back that really puts it in simple terms. Look at where the United States is, and then look at how many times people visit the doctor here per year. It's ridiculous. Then look at our life expectancy.

frankie- the point is we ARE going to die and then it will all be over. Why wouldn't you want to extend that as long as possible? I don't know about you, but I like being alive and prefer it to the alternative for sure, and I prefer to stay alive as long as I can.

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Cost of regular pioneering?

by hoser in

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i was wondering if anybody had any figure$ on what it costs for a couple to regular pioneer if you would include the vehicle expense and the value of their time?.

ILTSF

^ Sounds like the typical pioneer's life. I couldn't give you exact costs, though, I never got that far, thank god (ha, irony).

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Beards?

by Think About It in

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i'm new here and probably missed the latest discussion of the beard topic.

what's the latest on beards in jw society?

i'm 2 weeks into a beard and just got to wondering about it.

ILTSF

Still a no-no, and I don't think you can (or at least you're not supposed to) get on stage with one.

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What is the best thing you did to recover after leaving the JWs?

by Lady Lee in

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i often get inspiration for threads from pms from other posters.

here is one that i thought i would put out there to get your recommendations?.

what is the best thing you did?.

ILTSF

I haven't done much so far, but I would definitely say joining this board. In the future, I plan to go to counseling and read all of the books that I haven't (CoC, CCMC, etc)...

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JWs having Facebook Sex - Strongly warned to get off FB at CA yesterday

by shopaholic in

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so it appears that jws are letting their freaky side come out on fb for everyone to see.. there was talk on the ca yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of jehovah to delete their fb accounts.

the talk was solely about fb.

the speaker mentioned that jws are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative.

ILTSF

Speaking of cell phones...I remember a DC part one time where a "brother" had just gotten a new phone, and basically the moral of the story was that it took way too long for him to read the manual to learn how to use the phone, so he took it back and started using his old one, and then felt better about not spending the money anyway... I don't know who they thought was going to buy that one, how long does it really take to learn how to use a phone? I have an iPhone and it still only took me all of about five minutes to figure out how to do all of the basic stuff.

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Anyone Interested in a Bible Study - ex JW

by [email protected] in

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i was a jehovah's witness for 24 years and left in 1979. you can read about my life in free minds ex jw web site.

i have been a member of an orthodox presbyterian church since 2001.

(reformed) .

ILTSF

Yeah, seriously. We're mostly all a little sick of the Bible right now...

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"And Jehovah has blessed us with diesel fuel"

by Sour Grapes in

when i read these eye witness accounts from haiti.

like jehovah is blessing his people with diesel fuel.

and food my brain begins to bleed.

ILTSF

The "unanswered prayers" are always ignored...

Do they really think that the same God who gave them *diesel fuel* would let thousands of people die and not care at all?

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JWs having Facebook Sex - Strongly warned to get off FB at CA yesterday

by shopaholic in

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so it appears that jws are letting their freaky side come out on fb for everyone to see.. there was talk on the ca yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of jehovah to delete their fb accounts.

the talk was solely about fb.

the speaker mentioned that jws are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative.

ILTSF

This is classic.

I, for one, am thrilled to see all of the dubs on FB. It shows that society is losing some control. People are obviously questioning some of their counsel, and if you look at their groups and pages, it's obvious that they're questioning a lot of things- I see a lot of politic pages, groups for books/movies that you know aren't acceptable (Twilight is a big one), etc...Besides the Watchtower group, there's usually no sign on their profiles that they are a JW (not that this is a huge surprise, how many of us actually owned up to the fact that we were unless we had to?). Some people I know don't have the group added, either- there's no sign that they're a JW at all.

Farkel is right- this is going to build up a lot of curiosity. The ones that weren't on FB are going to join just to check it out, and they're going to do a search and realize all of their friends are already there. I'm sure that some are going to start wondering why they're not allowed to chat and share photos with their friends...hopefully they'll start wondering why they're not allowed to do other things, too.

Then we'll welcome them here

I've read before that 2/3 of born-ins leave...I think FB will put a big dent in how many stay.