Posts by Diogenesister

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Shall I go to the meeting? Would you?

by KateWild in

hi guys,.

i might go to the meeting.

i stopped going in my heart properly in nov 2013, but i went to a couple of meetings to support a love one that was df'd and tried to teach them a little ttatt.. now another df'd loved one is coming to see me today and will likely encourage me to try and get ri'd, and i want to support her.

Diogenesister

KATE- Of course it's totally your decision to make-none of us can make that decision for you- however since you asked - I truly believe that many ex-JW's , some on this board even- may underestimate the POWER of cult mind control. If a person decides to sit in the atmosphere of hearing the catch phrases, the WT doctrines, and mind manipulation information coming off the platform- THAT is what can happen- mind control, mind manipulation and possibly re-indoctrination. It's not just a mind control thing ; it's a physiological change that occurs inside a persons brain neurotransmitters when this information comes into our minds. Our nerve or neurotransmitters over many years of JW indoctrination made familiar or common pathways through our mind that became WAY too familiar ( one reason it's hard for JW's to look at ANY other viewpoints their brains are blazed or branded with this neurotransmitter thought process

Wow - shows just how like an addiction religon really is.

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Shall I go to the meeting? Would you?

by KateWild in

hi guys,.

i might go to the meeting.

i stopped going in my heart properly in nov 2013, but i went to a couple of meetings to support a love one that was df'd and tried to teach them a little ttatt.. now another df'd loved one is coming to see me today and will likely encourage me to try and get ri'd, and i want to support her.

Diogenesister

Kate,

You are one of the most beloved posters on this site. I'm saying this because what I'm about to say might sting a bit. My amateur psychological evaluation, and that is all that it is, is that your 'reasons' for going back to the KH have nothing to do with this sister. Nothing.

We've all read your emotional struggles to find justice with the KH and its elders for the unjust way you were treated. Most of us have been there, and we deeply care, understand and feel your pain.

I believe that is the sole reason you are considering going back to the KH. And I believe by asking you are trying to get us to talk you out of it. The more we rationalize the less rational we are.

So to answer the question you posed: No, not in 1 billion years would I ever return to a KH given the scenario you described.

Good luck Dear Kate.

Hi Kate, I have never posted to/with you before so I wouldn't presume to post what those who know you would. I'll just agree with them!😃

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Glory, glory, HalleluAPA!

by Island Man in

after describing apostates as being "mentally diseased" apostates may soon have good gounds for describing jws as being "mentally diseased", according to this news story.

Diogenesister

Thats the best thing I've heard in ages.

Interestingly, I two JW's have mentioned to me in the last year ( callers who dont know my background) that their GP's questioned their sanity! One was very close to making a psyciatric referal.

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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

by suavojr in

jw
friends

let the merging begin!!!.

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

Diogenesister

Know what I find really disturbing? The use (multiple times) of the words "Master Plan." If that's doesn't scream "old Krout-controlling-Nazi-cult-leadership", I don't know what does. That is really creepy and weird.

"Ya Schroeder, Franz told me dat ve hav to cut bach on uzing da gas chambers so much, ve need to conserve da Zyclon-B."

It has always struck me, particularly post Rutherford, the disproportionate no of GB with teutonic sounding names.

Hope noone is offended.

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Crisis of Conscience

by The_Doctor10 in

for those of you who haven't attempted to read or just haven't been able to obtain a copy of crisis of conscience by former gb member raymond franz, if you're interested, here's a link to an audio playlist reading of it:.

playlist.

this person has made it his goal to put into audio form raymond franz's book.

Diogenesister

I've just finished teading it, so wish I could have met him and thanked him. Got a real lump in my throat when he talks about his guilt at leaving his wife childless. How dare they treat a man like that with such contempt - no civilized country decides who they want to convict and then goes looking for a crime with which to do so.

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exJW Billboard is up.

by cappytan in

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friends

waiting on higher resolution photos from wifibandit.. but here is the (redacted) notification from the company.

apparently they take photos with a potato.. (the billboard directs folks to http://jwawake.com ).

Diogenesister

Well happy

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Faced with plummeting ratings JWbroadcasting tries a spin off combo show with 'Shark Week'

by Watchtower-Free in

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Diogenesister

:) 😄😄😄😄

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My introduction and confession

by elderINewton in

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friends

well another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.

i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.

i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.

Diogenesister

Don't feel too bad. You did what you could, and now it's time to protect your own child. Also the very act of you leaving might help others to wake up too.

Couldn't have put it better. I wish you all the very best and welcome.

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So one of the elders kids told my son she is not going to college, but will pioneer. my son told her he is going to college.

by goingthruthemotions in

he said she gave him a strange look.

i then explained to my son that her father has no degree and barely provides for his family.

he works like a fool, .

Diogenesister

I HATE SHUNNING

I HATE SHUNNERS

OK RANT OVER, MOVE ALONG NOTHING TO SEE

I HATE SHUNNING

I HATE SHUNNERS

WHOOPS, THAT JUST POPPED OUT

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How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

by CalebInFloroda in

while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

Diogenesister

Re the name of God thing, isn't davening incredibly repetative ?