Orphan Crow
Is there any addresses, email or snail, that we can use to express our appreciation of Angus Stewart and Justice Maclellen ?
Diogenesister
JoinedPosts by Diogenesister
-
65
Yes!!! We will see Jackson's face!
by OrphanCrow ini emailed mr. stewart about jackson's testimony, asking if the video link would be visible to the public.. this was his prompt reply:.
thank you dianne for your interest.
the it people tell me that mr jackson will be on the screen for all to see and hear.regardsangus stewart.
-
-
-
30
Hello!
by BeautifulMind ini've been enjoying all of the discussions here for a good while now.
i found this site as i was researching things about this religion i've been in (finally after nagging curiosity and questions) but i wanted to figure things out more before coming on here and posting.
i'm glad to see that im not alone or crazy!
-
-
Diogenesister
So glad you and spouse are on the same wavelength, lovely to hear. Enjoy this wonderful time with young children, it really is the happiest time of your life so try not to get too stressed about things as you will never have this special time again! (Ok preaching over, that's the only type of middle aged preach you will hear from me!)
-
11
Questions for current and former elders re giving evidence
by Mickey mouse insupposing you were called to give evidence by an inquiry.
how would you answer?
are you concerned that you may end up being called to give evidence for past involvement in judicial committees to future inquiries?
-
-
Diogenesister
I'm not an ex elder but I am studying law and I would say if I had a client who was an ex elder I would argue that he should be seen in a similar light to that of an ex addict and or someone who had suffered from a mental health issue. In other words the brainwashing and fear tactics the cult employs cripple one's normal faculties to such an extent that a person does not act as their normal, rational self would. In fact I would say that a serving elder may be seen to be as responsible for their actions as a hostage would. In other words no reasonable person would perceive them as a free agent.
If you think about what the average JW may face loosing should they incur the wtbts displeasure you will begin to understand why the Australian elders were 'throwing themselves under the bus' so to speak. They have a metaphorical gun pointed at their heads', even should they have every sympathy with the aims of the R.C.
-
31
Something terrible has just happened
by Crazyguy inthe neighbor child came over to play with my youngest child.
i think she's about 4 maybe 5. well anyway there was some strawberries out on the counter and she asked if she could have one and i said no.
when i looked over later i saw her sneak one.
-
-
Diogenesister
Let me guess.....you also put a pox on this kid and her future children and her children's children and you greatly increased her pain in childbirth. (that last bit was a nice touch by the way, I wouldn't have though of that in a million years )
SAMUEL HERD: where she gets to loose lots of blood, then you get to ban blood transfusions. Way to go,big man!(oh and don't forget to curse her with the urge to play house )
-
25
Shunning inactive JW? I never heard about it before....
by Albert Einstein infrom many of your posts ive noticed some of you, who never were df or da are practicaly shunned by your family memebers or congregation memebers.
does that really mean they wouldnt talk to you or greet you, if they meet you on the street or if you call them?.
i live in eastern europe and i never in my life heard about such attitude.
-
-
Diogenesister
I later learned that her name was Amy and that she was disfellowshipped or declared disassociated, which in the early 1980s was officially the same as being d'fed (Even to the ridiculous point of a certain watchtower using over and over again the composite word disfellowshipped/disassociated, yes they lumped the words together).
And we know why don't we? It was a personal hissy fit thrown by one of the 'anointed' great leaders, against his nephew - the principled, brave Ray Franze. The whole D/A equals D/F rule was passed PURELY as a way of hurting Ray. Lese majeste indeed. At least we know how they get their 'new light',spite.
R.I.P. Amy, sounds like another brave soul.
-
20
Movies/Books for Cult Survivors
by Brighid infor me, there have always been special movies or scenes in movies that trigger my old jw experience (fiddler on the roof and little mermaid touched me deeply when i watched them as a young jw).
later as a survivor, it was more donnie darko, thx 1138 themes that struck me in particular.. anyway, looking for suggestions on great movies, books (art of any kind, really) that especially speak to or move you as a jw survivor?
there are reasons beyond purely entertainment that i ask..
-
-
Diogenesister
If you want a recent movie, for a born again humanist- athiest type, Christopher Nolan's "Intersteller" is a must-see, utterly inspirational.
Another new-ish film worth seeing is Ridley Scott's Exodus God and Kings. Love the way Mosed tries to rescue his brother Pharoh at the last minute and take him with him.
The Matrix and Ninteen Eighty-Four get my vote as must-see for any newly awoken one's. Animal Farm too.
Brighid Love these types of posts, btw!
-
29
Do video games cause bad behaviour in children?
by The Rebel inmy boy is 10 and has got very interested in pocamon cards.
( a game way to complicated for me to understand) but i've also noticed it's linked to a computer game, which seems harmless enough but i also noticed advertisements for more violent games appear.. i would value people's opinion on whether, you think video games cause bad behaviour in kids.
i should mention my kid says i limit his time on these games, much more than other children's parents, and i was thinking of reevaluating that rule.. thanks.. the rebel..
-
-
Diogenesister
Pokemon LOL!! Have they really got nothing better! Boy they really want to sqeeze every ounce of joy out of the kids don't they? Funny one decades terror is deemed a bit education 20 years later! Ie strategy game = using your brain =good -
29
Do video games cause bad behaviour in children?
by The Rebel inmy boy is 10 and has got very interested in pocamon cards.
( a game way to complicated for me to understand) but i've also noticed it's linked to a computer game, which seems harmless enough but i also noticed advertisements for more violent games appear.. i would value people's opinion on whether, you think video games cause bad behaviour in kids.
i should mention my kid says i limit his time on these games, much more than other children's parents, and i was thinking of reevaluating that rule.. thanks.. the rebel..
-
-
Diogenesister
Yes unfortunately there is a bit of a difficult age sort of 9 to 14 where the 3+ or 7+ market like skylanders they find a bit babyish but games like halo they go for are 12+ and can seem too violent. Halo is a battle aliens game but no gore/ bood and ONE cuss word , how silly is that either cuss or don't but don't spoil it for the kid market but saying the b word once !
I find it really difficult to deal with as one of my kids its litterally all he wants to do, ever. The worse thing is he's terrible at sports and hates it. Hates reading, can't spell but is nerdy about computers and science. It really is the only thing he is good at, that and music. He has a wicked sense of humour, like a youtuber so when I try and stop him I wonder am I trying to stop his future?
-
51
Leaving the org and marriage possibly ending
by atacrossroads ini was raised a witness, baptized at 16, vacation pioneered, got married, etc.
i was very much your typical witness and believed it was the truth until last summer.
a very close relative of mine left the witnesses.
-
-
Diogenesister
Hi , and welcome. Lots of great advice here, I particularly like
kirous wish I had the patience to take a slower approach.
My JW wife constantly reminds me that there is no emergency.
There isn't.
I wouldn't bother with the whole birthday xmas thing just now, they don't matter (especially if you have no kids). Let him get used to the idea (and that you are not going to sprout two heads) I know it's been a while but it sound's like he's going through a process of grieving right now ( I hope you have been through the angry stage!! Eg the old 'expert elder' bit LOL!!!)I guess emember how long it took you to adjust . I don't see, however, why you shouldn't show him some of the reasons you found the org so dubious and there are some great examples on this thread of things taken from only the bible and the wtbts own literature. The live broadcast from the RC of GB member Jackson may be an excellent 'entree'!!
I wish you all the best, I don't see why you're marriage should become a victim of the wbts imho! But only you know the extent to which it's been poisoned by the cult.
PS you didn't mention parents/in laws but whether you choose to fade of d/a I expect will be governed by that. Personally I would try to avoid loosing family but in the end I guess you must do what's right for you. I am glad you have your cousin and I am sorry the elder's gave him such a hard time, so much for consistency. I guess he wasn't married to a ms!
-
49
Why won't they simply change policy on sex offenders? Will they?
by punkofnice inwhy won't they (the wbt$ head honchos), simply change policy on sex offenders?
will they?..especially after the arc for eg?
it seems that with all the bad press and now the arc among other institutions that are exposing the wbt$ for a haven for paedophiles, why hasn't the wbt$ simply changed it's insane policy?.
-
-
Diogenesister
Fukitol I'd rather die at Armageddon than worship such a deity!
Agreed. Someone in a post on this site mentioned standing on a high place (TM) with chest puffed out and giving the finger too, becuase he would die happy knowing he had the moral highground.