Posts by Diogenesister

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America Mass Shooting: 10/1/2015

by adjusted knowledge in

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since this will be the norm in america, perhaps we should put a date on each of these topics.

can't really put school mass shooting because too many to choose from.

Diogenesister

Zoos25 minutes ago

I'm in a tough spot on this issue. While I agree with a person's right to own a gun (I own one too), I acknowledge that beer-bellied rednecks and hot-headed idiots bent on saving Amurr'ca with religion, guns and the Republican party are the types of people who (mostly) go buy these deadly tools.

That scares the $#!* out of me.

I have a gun and a licence to open carry. But the only time I carry my gun out of the house is when I go hiking in the mountains. I do that so that I can make sure I never slip to second place on the food chain. There have been several reports of bear attacks in the area I like to explore and, well... I think second place would suck.

There have been some fantastic posts on this thread. Really likeFrazzled ubm & stephen Pinker has got the historical reasons down pat. I would just like to add Zoos that in the uk you would have a gun no problem, "country pursuits"is the main reason folk own guns in the uk & your exploring would definately come under that catagory - I mean noone would expect you to come a bad second going a few rounds with a grizzly!!(well, in the uk you wont find any bears , we have some bad tempered badgers, but you get the principal). So we do in fact have guns in the uk for many of the pursuits mentioned in the gun threads we get after these tragedies, just really strict laws around ownership.

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Mass disassociation pact...

by freemindfade in

any takers?

we can pick a date and pull the plug?

lol .

Diogenesister

GoneAwol17 hours ago

Somewhere we should dedicate it to those early ones that had courage and paid for it. Ray Franz. Barbara Anderson. We owe them a lot. - Freemindfade

If we can fit it all in I love this idea, it really is true we owe them a lot. Intetesting - its kind of a modern sacrifice, they are modern "saints"if you will. Similarly with those such as Oompa, although I didn't know him, I see them as emotionally pure "givers" to humanity😇

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Mass disassociation pact...

by freemindfade in

any takers?

we can pick a date and pull the plug?

lol .

Diogenesister

disposable hero of hypocrisy18 minutes ago

Jump to about page 9 and read from there! There's provision for those who can't disassociate...

Loving provision!

btw love your name DHoH! Rockin'!

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The Borg has given up!!!!

by Crazyguy in

it's become obvious in the last few days that the borg is done, done giving one dime over to the membership of the organization.

they know or have been told that it's a waste of time to spend money trying to recruit new members so their cutting all out lays of money in this regard to the bone.

they will continue to spend money where they can make a prophet, keeping the ones in, not thinking and donating.

Diogenesister

Someone posted recently and accidently spelt 'profit' as 'prophet', dicussing the borg of course. I thought it would be rude to point out the mistake but I thought it was quite apt.

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Overlapping generation pushed me to the brink

by Anator in

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friends

hello, i haven't posted for a number of years.

i've been struggling for years of wrestling in my mind regarding the organization.

i guess the big thing for me to push me over the edge is the generation overlapping thingy.

Diogenesister

This is sin of omission. They don't mention what the early Bible Students thought was significant about 1914. Like you said, they predicted Armageddon to break out in 1914. When WWI broke out, they thought they were right. Lol. Funny to think about now. What must they have thought when world conditions settled back down into relativepeace.

This entire organization was founded on false prophecy.

Agree with you, but I would like to add as far as I understand it is that Rutherford didn't decide all of this until 1923 In other words he didn't discern anything in 1914 - they were expecting armaggedon in 1914 & it did not happen.

Russell died disappointed the year after in 1915.

In 1923 Rutherford looked back at the first world war & Russells prophecy failure and made the prediction that the ancient worthies would return in 1925 (Abraham etc) and that that jesus returned invisably in 1914 - I submit that neither of these events happened.

The whole 1914 thing was decided after the fact. Well we can all be wise in hindsight!It hardly makes us prophetic!

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On the realization you will not "live forever"

by problemaddict 2 in

something struck me last week.

i have been dealing with what i can only describe as a fear of death.

i'm not old and not in bad health.

Diogenesister

Crazy SaintB ! Or quickly by having your nuts bitten off by a Laplander?

Remind me not to go to Lapland 😧

I have always liked Graveyards, you can understand why some cultures talk bout going to the ancestors - its a kind of nice idea.

Seeing the little ones',or even those who have not lived a long life the under 60's even, is a hard thing to take. I think that is something I will always rail against, the injustice of it.

I just wanna freeze cyrogenically my head & get taken out once every 100 years to just know WHATS GOING ON! Cant stand the thought of not knowing. I dont mind just being a head , always was a bit head on istic.😝

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Mass disassociation pact...

by freemindfade in

any takers?

we can pick a date and pull the plug?

lol .

Diogenesister

I am in !

Petezahut like the "sans" term, never heard it before - of course sans means without in french a negative word so a good acronym.

I am deeply sorry about your family member & I feel the blood issue should take precedence when listing grievences. It seems to me its easy for the brooklyn 7 & their ilk to issue blood legalisms given that, in the main,its young women giving birth & kids (who have low blood volume & likely to have lukaemia & haemaphillia)who are most likely to suffer. Like all watchtowers obsessions the young come off worse.

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where shall we go

by Sabin in

yesterday i read something that hurt my heart.

at a talk given by a brother lyman swingle ( i apologize if i am stepping out of line by using this) he said "that if you leave the jw ( i find it difficult to refer to it as the truth now days) you may as well go jump off a bridge".

this i think is disgraceful talk to say to any body let alone an audience in which children are present.

Diogenesister

abusive partners who tell their partner they won't be wanted by anyone else besides them.

Thats an interesting anology illuminated and a very apt one, really throws the cruel behaviour of Wtbts into sharp relief.

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Are the GB very intelligent men with higher than average IQ? Or are they stupid men who were put in their position by sheer “LUCK”

by John Aquila in

are the governing body of the wt wickedly smart with extremely high iq or are they leaders of the wt because they were at the right place at the right time.

(in other words, pure luck )-think lottery.

ive seen them talk in jwtv and you can never convince anyone in the whole world that these guys are in the same category as someone smart or cunning like jim simons who founded renaissance technologies or bill gates.

Diogenesister

DOC The WTS is reactionary.

Amen to that!

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Are the GB very intelligent men with higher than average IQ? Or are they stupid men who were put in their position by sheer “LUCK”

by John Aquila in

are the governing body of the wt wickedly smart with extremely high iq or are they leaders of the wt because they were at the right place at the right time.

(in other words, pure luck )-think lottery.

ive seen them talk in jwtv and you can never convince anyone in the whole world that these guys are in the same category as someone smart or cunning like jim simons who founded renaissance technologies or bill gates.

Diogenesister

I don't think Geoff Jackson is stupid in the sense of a low iQ I think it's probably a little higher than average but as already pointed out his lack of education lets him down & puts him at a disadvantage.

He almost certainly started out as a genuine believer & missionary in the early days but with time has started to enjoy the kudos of being an "anointed" overeer & the closer to the seat of power he got the more of a brown-nose company man he became. You would have to be something of a non entity to be accepted by the others anyway.

I believe thats the nicest thing you can say for any of them. There are one or two exeptions like antony morris who probably bullied his way to the top or more likely just out 'hard core witnessed' everybody to earn his position.

What I find interesting is when these dudes decided they were anointed. I say that because with the younger ones, when they would have got baptised back in the 70's or even early 80's it was almost a given that you had to be really old WW2 generation AT LEAST to be amongst the 144,000. I know that one of the GB only decided he was anointed when be started getting close to the seat of power - maybe it was Ted Jaracz or Jack Barr, anyway the point is it would be interesting to find out. For instance Jackson was baptised at 13 in the early 70's & I really find it hard to believe he immediately claimed to be anointed. I guarantee they get the 'nod from God'only when it becomes apparent that it would be "politically useful" to be of the anointed class. I didn't know anyone under 60 in the 80's who was anointed. It was just accepted that the end being so near the anointed had to be elderly.

So bright?No. Educated?Never.Calculated careerists ?Yes.