Diogenesister

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  Proof that the lingiusts are lying about words used in the bible IE: Shaddai, Angels, Elohim, Yhwh?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in 1967 an archeologist found at tell el-deir alla an inscription that they called the book of balaam son of beor.

  this looks to be about the same balaam that's talked about in the bible book of numbers.

  remember the guy where his donkey is talking to him.

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  Crazyguy may I ask what you study please? And you also full-time student?

  Fascinating stuff. I was always given to understand Shaddai meant mountains, so rarther than the plural Elhoim representing a single god of majesty, a kind of "royal we", it actually may simply mean GODS (of the mountains). Occam's razor and all that! I also read somewhere that yahweh maybe Baal, the son of el, and the host of heaven referring to the many gods of heaven...not as in god and his angels. Does anyone have anymore info..I will definitely look into the book full-time student mentions.
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  Wow...not even sure this qualifies as a "fade"

  by respectful_observer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm posting this both as an anecdote and also to see if, by chance, this person reads this site.

  (if you do, it'd be great to catch up since you now live fairly close to me!).

  i've got a friend who until very recently was actively serving as an elder in hall close to bethel, and on a body heavy with bethelites.

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  Hope he's OK.
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  Local Needs part given after Ministerial Servant left the organization

  by cappytan in

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  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbb8rt2bem8.

  some crazy cult language in this talk.. some highlights:.

  18:15 - obey.

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  Hang on, he said Why couldn't Two IMPERFECT people obey one simple command......, I thought they were PERFECT until they ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and bad. ?

  Edit: I guess he did not want to say why couldn't two perfect people obey one simple commsnd as it would have sounded as stupid as it actually DOES sound
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  Relatives who work in Warwick are visiting

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have some relatives who work in warwick visiting us this week.

  the visit has been largely drama free.

  they came between meeting days, so the subject of going to the meetings never came up.. however, they have been talking about the "downsizing.".

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  Get a load of Oubliette's picture...no surprise at the person sitting at the head of the table...123..WHOSE THE DADDY?!!
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  Request for Research Help: WTS Views on Intersex Individuals

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  request for research help: .

  several recent threads have gotten me started on an essay and i need some research help.

  does anyone have access to anything the wt has ever published on intersex people (they might have used the now-outdated term: hermaphrodite)?

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  I always used to bring this up with dubs when they start any rants about sexuality..I heard a statistic that 1 in a hundred kids is born with both sets, or parts, of genitals to some extent...and that doesn't include the one's whose endocrine system is out of sync with their tackle..
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  In Judas' Defense

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have read in jw.org that the governing body affirms that judas has been eternally condemned:.

  did judas iscariot commit an unforgivable sin?.

  his greed moved him to steal money that had been donated for a sacred use.

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  That was Oscar Wilde's argument , that Judas was the one true sacrificial lamb:

  Someone had to betray Jesus for gods purpose to be fulfilled

  Satan entered him, like Adam it was Satan's fault

  So Judas therefore had no freewill..he was a pawn

  Unlike Jesus' temporary death, Judas' death is permanent

  Therefore it's Judas we have to thank for our salvation.

  If, of course, any of it is true.

  These 1st century Jews were not the best philosophers....let's face it their reasoning is easily taken apart. This 300 years after Socrates death too...very poor show!
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  This Cult Should Be Called to Account

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the emotions from this are surreal:.

  (kudos for the kid to record it).

  https://soundcloud.com/throwawayjw1914_2/abuse.

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  This women's reaction leads me to think she knows there are issues with her religion..she cannot handle the fact she has wasted her life on BS. What an unloving b*#ch, I would love to be part of a community of atheist refuge's for kids in situations like this. We need something like a "secular shelter" for kids suffering from religiously abusive homes. Horrible.
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  Are Magicians Spawns of Satan the Devil?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was perusing the internet not long ago and came upon this series of videos by a guy calling himself xendrius.

  it declares that many of today's best magicians are in league with the devil.

  his claims are based on his observation that the tricks would be impossible to do unless the magicians had made unholy pacts with the devil.. so what's the take of the wtbts?

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  I like the magicians who explain before hand its all science....psychology and neuroscience (slieght of hand, diversion tactics) or physics. Penn and Teller are a great example of these post modern magicians.
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  The World's First Website

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  25 years ago this week tim berners-lee turned on the first ever website on the world wide web.

  basically it was a self-help guide to joining the web.... the first search engine alibweb was launched in '94 and it still functions today.. 4 billion web pages later it could be said the project was a success.. you can read more about the early days here....

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  Thank you cofty this will be my family 'study'for today!My boys have also enjoyed the twelve evolution video's for Xmas too BTW. The kids of xtian parents have been turning up the heat on my 10 yr olds for the last couple of weeks...at their school carol service when my son called prayer books useless one of the kids said he would go to hell..whereby my son asked if it was reasonable to punish a kid forever because its parents did not believe "the right" religion. Good lad.
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  The Influence of Hellenism on Early Christianity: Dionysus as a Pattern for the Mythical Aspects of Jesus.

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the influence of hellenism on early christianity: dionysus as a pattern for the mythical aspects of jesus..

  the palestine in which the young jesus grew up was strongly influenced by hellenic mythology.

  for some 600 years the jews had been subjects of first the persian empire and then the empires of alexander the great, his hellenic successors (the ptolemies and the xxxx) and eventually the romans.

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  And the archetypal "hero" pattern continues up until today...Harry Potter being one of the most recent examples.