Posts by Diogenesister

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Is the WT’s Paradise Earth doctrine a delusion?

by deegee in

the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.

http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.

so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.

Diogenesister

....So when the laughs died down we continued our conversation...he wasn't aware of the veggie animals and the Noah edict ( has never been a JW, naturally) and I further explained the thread topic and other puzzling stuff like how dinosaurs fit in to witness ideas ....so he has this puzzled look on his face and says " but what are these people and animals going to eat?" [Thinks...] " ah...maybe they WONT EAT...in the paradise!"

😉 And there, sez I, you get a perfect demonstration of how the witnesses get their theology...if there's a hole in your theory...get out of it by digging yourself another one!!

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Is the WT’s Paradise Earth doctrine a delusion?

by deegee in

the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.

http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.

so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.

Diogenesister

OUTLAW! LOL! THANK YOU! MY HSBAND AND I LAUGHED FOR 10 MINUITES STRAIGHT AT YOUR POST!!!!

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Faith and Lies.

by sparrowdown in

if you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single wt teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?.

i know, i definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation.

i would have tripped up on questions about blood, dfing and non jws being marked for destruction just to name a few.

Diogenesister

My readings over the headshipl thing would have been off the chart! I swore I would never get married because of it and as my Dad has never been a( baptised )JW it was never an issue for me at home... I also thought the grooming rules were BS too, fully cognizant that the Watchtards are stuck in 50's America ( the rubbish bit not the cool Jimmy Dean Marlon Brando bit!)

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Like Father, Like Son

by cofty in

when faced with awkward questions about the morality of god many christians respond by distancing themselves from the old testament and focusing on "gentle jesus meek and mild" of the new testament.. for bible-believing christians this is intellectually dishonest.. according to christian dogma jesus was the god of abraham isaac and jacob.

the logos, the alpha and omega who is "the same yesterday, today, and forever.".

he claimed that "he that has seen me has seen the father" and that "i and the father are one".. in short, christians assert that jesus is almighty god from all eternity.. it therefore follows that jesus was the god who ordered the nation of israel to take slaves as inheritable possessions.

Diogenesister

And though they could be inherited, the Lord directed that on certain occasions and jubilees that the slaves be released with compensation. It was, I suppose, better than being subjected to death.

Why do theists pretend not to know that this jubilee applied ONLY to Jews - as I have pointed out before according to their own theology the Isrealites were all cousins, how generous of God to allow relatives a release from slavery after 50 years when they were too old and sick to feed themselves ....how happy the slavemaster would be not to have a useless mouth to feed.

Did the OT Isrealites do one single thing differently to any other ancient tribe in the circumstances?No - despite the wisdom of the all mighty wise creator of the universe they behaved as abominably as any other Bronze Age tribe, funny that!Anyone would think they just made the whole God thing up!Oh wait..

It took the influence of the oh so human Greek philosophers to trickle down to the Isrealites from about 300 BC before they started to become somewhat more enlightened around the time the NT was penned.

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Like Father, Like Son

by cofty in

when faced with awkward questions about the morality of god many christians respond by distancing themselves from the old testament and focusing on "gentle jesus meek and mild" of the new testament.. for bible-believing christians this is intellectually dishonest.. according to christian dogma jesus was the god of abraham isaac and jacob.

the logos, the alpha and omega who is "the same yesterday, today, and forever.".

he claimed that "he that has seen me has seen the father" and that "i and the father are one".. in short, christians assert that jesus is almighty god from all eternity.. it therefore follows that jesus was the god who ordered the nation of israel to take slaves as inheritable possessions.

Diogenesister

Wouldn't it be funny if Cofty and SBF where really the same person...or even better married to each other, but the kids had ruled to save their sanity the parents were only allowed to debate the "R" word on forums, the proviso being that the parents were not allowed to TELL each other when one of them made a post ( or dinner would never get done as they'd be at it all day). Explains why Slim is so fast off the drawer - he's seen hubby sneak off into the study & guesses what he's up to!)

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OKAY, GAME OVER! The number one reason the New Testament amounts to bunk

by Terry in

for me, the dead giveaway is this.

jesus wrote nothing.. stop and think about that.. if jesus were the authentic messiah, his ministry would not simply be local.. his instructions, his mission, the details of his teachings would be too precious to risk leaving it in the hands of "men unlettered (illiterate) and ordinary (blue-collar yokels).".

jesus, were he the one and only hope of mankind, would be absolutely certain to write down with great simplicity and specificity the exact owner's manual necessary to rescue mankind.. never happened!.

Diogenesister

T typeology: "Leviticus 25:13 “In the year of this jubilee ye shall return every man unto his possession.” (17) “Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God: for I am the LORD your God.”

The object of the year of Jubilee was liberty and to break all oppression. The Jubilee was a type or forerunner of what it would be under the reign of King Messiah. The Jubilee was to set the stage for the coming of King Messiah as His reign would be one continual Jubilee. All oppression would end under His rule. Justice and truth would reign."

You know this law was meant only for other Jews, who, by the way, were actually all cousins according to their own theology...slavery within the family no less. Horrible.

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Aliens exist and YHWH (Jehovah) was one of them.

by Jehovah Was An Alien in

"the constellation of the seven stars forming the pleiades appears to be the crowning centre around which the known system of the planets revolve even as our suns planet obey the sun and travel in their respective orbits.

it has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling place of jehovah and the place of the highest heavens; that is the place to which the inspired writer referred to when he said: "hear thou from thy dwelling place, even from heaven" (2 chronicles6:21) ; and that it is the place to which job referred when under inspiration he wrote: "canst thou blind the sweet influences of pleiades, or loose the bands of orion" – job 38:31"

the constellation of the pleiades is a small one compared with others which scientific instruments disclose to the wondering eyes of man.

Diogenesister

juandefieroa day ago

So was Xenu relateted to YHWH?

I think your'll find that was Zena warrior princess

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Do you have a Watchtower fantasy?

by pleaseresearch in

picture yourself, it's the last day of a three day district assembly.

your sitting in a near full to capacity football stadium.

people are eagerly looking forward to the final talk.

Diogenesister

pleaseresearch15 minutes ago

Having a paparazzi take a photo of Anthony Morris 3rd on his holidays. Wearing the tightest pair of tight pants known to man. Then running after the photographer, stumbling all over the place. Falling over, splitting his pants and showing the world the old, wrinkled sack that he has.

Pleasuresearch !That is not a fantasy...that is a dream of mine!💕💕💕💕

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Do you have a Watchtower fantasy?

by pleaseresearch in

picture yourself, it's the last day of a three day district assembly.

your sitting in a near full to capacity football stadium.

people are eagerly looking forward to the final talk.

Diogenesister

Mine involves the WTS losing its tax-exempt status for valid reasons, having most of its money dry up, and having just a handful of crazy-ass loyalists retreat to the Warwick compound to wait out the End of Days in a slow, pathetic decline over the next half-century or so.

Vidiot That is not a fantasy - that is so going to happen....I believe they are actually planning for it as a contingency

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Today's Daily Text - Being Uneducated And Ordinary... WTF!!!

by Divergent in

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thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.

consider three examples.

first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.

Diogenesister

SAHS Lol!!! Miracle wheat!Should we send that one in to the Pope?!! I don't think it'll get past first reading, do you??!!😂😂😂