So pleased for you. You have to email and let him know! I'm sure it will do his heart good to know he played some part in helping a husband reach out to his indoctrinated wife....and maybe strengthen a marriage in the process? I wish you both all the best.....especially lovely to hear she's in contact with those she previously shunned!
Diogenesister
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My wife blew my mind, Seth Andrews, and more....
by pronomono inso i recently had the opportunity to hear seth andrews speak in person at a local unitarian universalist church.
for those of you who know my past, i've had a bit of a difficult time dealing with the emotional aspects of a fade with a wife that says she believes but doesn't put forth the works that demonstrate that faith.
we've kind of been in a rocky point in our relationship because we've both been afraid to test the waters on where each of us stand.
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Father's Day is tomorrow (in the US). Why is it wrong?
by leaving_quietly ini did an examination of the one single article ever to address father's day since it's tomorrow here in the us.
the article covers both mother's day and father's day.
hope it's informative.. examination of “mother and father worship unscriptural”, the only article ever to address father’s day in any publication printed by the watchtower bible and tract society.
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Diogenesister
Not " honouring" your father on father's day ( or mothers day) is just another way of seperating the JW " herd" from the rest of humanity - heaven knows we musn't have them identifying with their fellow man. Smiling at the card store at a colleague doing the same, discusing with a schoolchum what gift you want to buy, waving to a neighbour and his parents at the same restaurant you take your mum to. No integration, no sir!!!
Oh, and they want the cash you might spend on dads golf balls and after shave in the GB's pockets of course.
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Man I hate this F'ing cult!
by oppostate inthe nicest and kindest jw's seem to be the ones who are the least connected and active in the congregation.. i've been trying to fade and been missing quite a few meetings.. of course my wife still loyal as ever if not more so since i've awoken to ttatt.. every mid-week and sunday meeting i miss she gives me the silent treatment.. she's become more and more friendly with a regular pioneer younger than she is and wife of an elder, this to the letting go of regular contact with best friends in the 0rganization, whom she was closest to but were and aren't as active and regular at meetings and field service.. it's a crying shame, i'm closer and kinder to her old friends, keeping in touch through facebook posts now and then, encouraging them through the hardships, rejoicing with them during happy moments, graduations, welcoming a new child to the world, marriages, new jobs and what-not.. she has become a serious shunner, staying away from a lot of folks we were close to because they're not good association.. she's drunk the whole cup of kool-aid and anything i say that's remotely negative towards the 0rganization is met with stern retorts and accusations i'm apostate sounding.. and yet, she's still the kind hearted, loving person she used to be.
it's like she has a wt hat she dons and it changes her mind, her outlook, her behavior.
when dealing with neighbors, with people outside the kh, she's as nice as could be and i know this kind-heartedness is genuine--but it's been hi-jacked by this f'ing cult.
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Diogenesister
Hi, have you read Steve Hassans book yet? Combatting cult mind control? If not do so....I reckon its time to get serious. Let's kick this cult to the curb. Is there any way you could contact Steve's organization for some help in dealing with this? Some expert help to guide you through the process of extracting your loved one from this cult. Slowly slowly catchey monkey. Get her out enjoying life, remind her why she fell in love with you....then using the Socratic method, and help from an expert on the end of a phone...or a therapist pre- briefed about her cult issues ( say u need her help in couples therapy cos your depression is hurting your marriage).....POW!!! HIT THOSE CULT CLAWS AROUND HER WITH EVERYTHING YOUVE GOT.
Don't give up..".Ill send out an SOS to the world!"🎵🎶 SOS = Save our Sister!!!!
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Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'
by EdenOne inread the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
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Sanchy If you want to influence ppl into certain ideologies, you do it with information. You teach, educate, and patiently the market of ideas will create winners and losers. It takes time, but its the only right way to do it.
I fully agree with you Sanchy. You are also right that Russia has an unenviable record when it comes to gay rights.
My point is not that Russia is right to do this...but only that I understand WHY Watchtower is seen as an extremist religion with extremist views.
Further to your excellent point that in the market of ideas winners will come through .......when well researched information is placed before people they inevitably make the right choices.
But we have to remember that WT does not ALLOW its members to access said information and education, that its members may then make up their own minds.....they forbid them to access any information that may challenge WT agenda......that is when I believe the authorities have the right to protect the public.
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Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'
by EdenOne inread the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
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Diogenesister
Guys, let's not confuse a govt preventing freedom of conscience with shutting down an organization that denies freedom of conscience to its members on a daily basis. Proliferates literature containing hate speach toward humans whose sex, sexuality, ethic religous, political and cultural differences do not square with WT ideas of what is acceptable.
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Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'
by EdenOne inread the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
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Orphan Crow They behave as though they are a resistance force led by a US based religion that attempts to force their version of "freedom of religion" on everybody else. They call themselves a religion but they behave like a political force.
THIS /\ /\ /\ 100%.
They all remind me, with their ban on all books websites learning etc that disagrees with them, their total life or death loyalty to the " organization", looking forward to the deaths of million of " sub- humans" ( ie non- witnesses), and their thousand year " Reich" of the GB or their " new world order" , of the Nazis that someone is comparing the Russians too....think about it, who are the Nazis? Agree with us or die!..Hmmmmmm....
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Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'
by EdenOne inread the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
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Diogenesister
They can't be seen to be " picking" only on Islamic extremist groups. OK, JWs are not violent - yet - but they ARE extremists and the GB has utter control over the dubs.They contribute nothing to a society they ABHOR and wait gleefully for the destruction of millions of non-witness Russians. They are a cult. What more can I say? I don't agree with it but I am glad I it prevents just one Ruian becoming a dub.
JWs still can worship privately, its the legal entity the Russian govt are targeting.
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Non-JW music teacher talks about JW.org
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzgd8oa2re .
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Diogenesister
Fantastic video from an obviously extremely dedicated and caring teacher. I don't think he is singling out JWs at all...he probably doesn't have any other students who belong to a CULT given he seems to be a country guy there are probably no orthodox Jews etc ( who tend to live close together) and maybe a reletively high percentage of dubs.
As to the ex student friendship, ffs they share a love of music...they may be in a band together , the guy is probably in his twenties by now and an exJW who has shared his experiences with his friend and mentor who in turn is using his knowledge to try to benefit socially isolated CHILD CULT VICTIMS!!!
LETS GET IT RIGHT PEOPLE!!
EdenOne3 hours ago
When a religious group proactively outreaches to people at their own homes to try to recruit them into their religion, it's entirely legitimate that others make pro-active efforts to deprogram them from the cult's claws.
Damn straight Eden one!!
Simon The school would provide the instrument - how cool would that have been?!
Of course I couldn't because I wouldn't be able to play in the orchestra and take part in many of the events so it became another opportunity lost because of being a JW
Simon I feel for you...its gut wrenching to me when I hear this stuff. Who in hell would deny their kid an educational opportunity such as that which turns into a lifelong love?Heartbreaking stuff....we have one life and one chance.
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Is shunning unscriptual?
by MrTheocratic ininternational version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.
do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.
.how does one explain this scripture?.
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Still in had a brother who was never a Witness, who was a drug addict. I was very discerning in my association with him.
But you'd associate with Brother Prince Nelson and the whole lot of alcoholics and prescription addicts at the Hall?! Addiction does not make you a bad person...all humans are addicts given the right combination of circumstances we are hard wired to be so. Some addicts behave badly....some non addicts behave badly..
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JWs aren't stupid
by cognisonance inthe title is a bit of click bait.
but here's the alternative title: what stupid beliefs/ideas did you have while an active jw.. i think the majority of jws that don't have obvious mental health issues are not stupid, just un/under-educated.
for example, i now accept evolution as a thing, not a controversy or conjecture.
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But what about the university educated converts? I have known some....OK one was in languages, which isn't going to automatically teach you critical thinking skills, but one was an engineer....and a competent one at that.
Some of these so-called " scientists" have the degree but how much experience in their related field do they really have? I'd say not much, after all that's the real guage of your competence. Anyone can sit a degree course, and it also explains why the " evidence" they give is so out of date.
Looking back most of the so-called intelligent dubs were full on Narcissists.....just couldn't accept that homo sapiens in general aren't the centre of the universe and they in particular are gonna die and get forgotten.