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  Acts 17;24

  by jehovahs is dead in

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  Diogenesister

  I thought at first it seemed rarther therapeutic.

  Maybe someone who has just awoken. I know I went through stages of feeling like this.
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  Toilet noises

  by pleaseresearch in

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  when growing up as a child i would go to the toilet, and now as an adult i know what those noises were.. they were tugging and jerking sounds, along with heavy breathing.

  i had no idea what was going on.

  i remember too telling my mum about it.. but i now know.

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  I have heard this talked about time and again. Is it the thrill of doing something wrong a turn-on? Or a subconscious rebellion - spitting on the floor of the Kingdom Hall, metaphorically speaking (or not)? Or sheer boredom?

  I know this much; I've never heard of any other ideology doing such a thing in their temple, church, mosque etc.
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  Languages, Dialects, Accents

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  just though i'd start a thread devoted to languages, dialects/sociolects and accents, with the idea being that posters can comment on any language, or dialect or accent of any language, on this thread.. any phrases, expressions or idioms that you find interesting are also welcome.

  first, the subject of english accents came up on another thread.. the british isles have many different types of accent (although many of the dialects may be dying out), and if i start to take a closer look, i can't help but see 'patterns' .... in received pronunciation of standard english, the letter r is pronounced initially, between vowels, and after consonants, e.g.

  red, arrow, break.

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  Interesting. I have a few questions and comments.

  Do you remember the old Hovis add? With the young lad pushing his bike up a hill With cobbled streets?( iirc). The man talking had a very particular accent. Lancashire? Are these the second "r" pronounciation's you describe? Very interesting that they may be a hangover of old languages.

  What is a sociolect? Each generation of children seem to have their very own particular words or phrasing that no other does, is this what you mean?

  For Americans Always wonder about the accents of other countries. For example Sam Herd sounds a bit like a cowboy to me, where is his accent from? How about Stephen Lett with his " projick's "( projects).where is his accent from? I imagine newer countries are gaining accents, just as older ones are loosing them. I could be wrong

  My sister-in-laws family speak only what they call ' dialect" in southern Italy. I've never understood the difference between dialect and accent. For instance, patois in Jamaican is still English, so I would call it an accent. Is that so for French patois? Or is it a dialect?

  Sorry they are not very intellectual questions!Just my musings.😋
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  If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

  humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

  so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

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  Rainbow_Troll My great aunt, who grew up poor in rural Arkansas during the great depression, could read and speak Latin fluently!

  But could your Aunt programme a computer? Did she understand the influence of historical, contemporary and cultural factors in the development of photographic artwork, a thorough knowledge of the sciences - Particles, Quantum Phenomena and Electricity. - understand the periodic table?Biological sciences, sociology? Economics? It's not fair, of course, to have expected your Aunt to know any of these things given *when* she went to school. But that's my point. Kids now have so much more *to* know. And yes, many of them do study Miltons ' Paradise Lost' or go to a theological seminary and study the Bible. Probably far more do these things than did back then.
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  Prince’s Wife Tells All About The Star’s Involvement With Scientology

  by oppostate in

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  according to prince’s wife, mayte garcia’s new tell-all book, even though the late star identified as a jehovah’s witness, he was also quite interested in scientology in the 90s!.

  the woman who was married to the rock icon for 4 years until 2000 revealed that another celebrity tried to convert him to the controversial faith.. however, it turns out that the singer chose to step away from the religion.. according to garcia, he thought scientology was “intriguing,” but ”i don’t need somebody telling me how to believe in my god.”.

  “he was always a spiritual seeker…he was way too smart to be sucked into something just because he was vulnerable in that moment,” the wife stated.. furthermore, garcia, who is now 47 years old, revealed that prince became a jehovah’s witness as a coping mechanism following the death of their baby boy, amir.. prince’s friend, bassist larry graham was the one who introduced him to the religion that soon took over every part of his everyday life.. because of that, he changed so much his marriage with garcia was ruined.. the woman explains in the book that prince was so much into the religion that he thought god was punishing him for the type of life he used to lead and that his infant’s death was the greatest price to pay for his reckless existence up to that point.. garcia, who was a born catholic, could not see things the way her husband did, no matter how much she tried.. “i…refused to embrace the gospel according to graham.

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  Purple thousand year reign 😂

  Prince was so stoned it was just another coping mechanism where he could "nod out" and dream about paradise, without paying the KH too many visits. Win-win if you've got a reason you want to escape reality.

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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

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  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  Rainbow_TrollThe fact that my little mind could reach the same conclusions as this genius demonstrates the power of logical thought to guide us toward the right answers.

  Yup. That is the beauty of logic.

  Which is why I was utterly bamboozled when I saw that one of those 'educated Witnesses' jw.org rolled out for their 'What I believe'video series was a 'Professor' of LOGIC!!! I mean the physicians I get ( well they're not scientists) even the Zoologist ( evolution doesn't rule out belief in God, although I would have thought it would the JW God) but a lecturer in LOGIC??? It just doesn't compute!!
  
  
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  Rainbow_Troll the exercise of reason has allowed me to solve many longstanding metaphysical question - such as the nature of consciousness and its relationship to matter - that I don't believe scientists will ever be able to arrive at using their methods.

  I would be very interested in your findings as to the nature of consciousness. Are you taking about theory of mind?
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  Anyone know what the special talk is this weekend?

  by charity7 in

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  non jw so thank you for bearing with me.

  do special talks happen with individual congregations or is it throughout?

  i was told by my husband that i had to go with him and the rest of his family to the special talk that was happening this weekend.

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  A talk about anger huh? I would have thought being that jw's are supposed to love their spouses like Christ loved mankind willing to give their very life for you, that honey and soft words would win you over rarther than something bitter ( angry words).

  JW men have gotten worse and worse over the years in my opinion, as the children of those bastards - like Rutherford, Knorr and Franz - came into power, believing the BS their grandfather's generation of jw power-mongers *knew* was their made up rubbish.
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  Life is changing for me: no pioneering, got a job!

  by Skepsis in

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  a month ago i decided to register in this board.

  i had decided to step down pioneering but was frightened about the consequences.

  i had finished my university degree some months before (despite disaproval from brothers in my congregation) and i had to choose: continue pioneering and working in jobs with no future or starting a career, working full-time.. i was thinking to postpone the decisiton but... i was fed up with preaching.

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  Diogenesister

  The best piece of advice is to Carry on listening to your inner voice.

  Congratulations on passing your degree. As an Organization Watchtower does everything it can to maintain its wealth. It's power structure is such that the lower levels and middle level work tirelessly with no reward; only for the top level to reap all the reward just like the pyramid scheme Watchtower really is.
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  Life is changing for me: no pioneering, got a job!

  by Skepsis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a month ago i decided to register in this board.

  i had decided to step down pioneering but was frightened about the consequences.

  i had finished my university degree some months before (despite disaproval from brothers in my congregation) and i had to choose: continue pioneering and working in jobs with no future or starting a career, working full-time.. i was thinking to postpone the decisiton but... i was fed up with preaching.

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  Toes up individual JW's may bring a meal over for you but the Organization will never help you

  There.FiFY!