this has come up recently with two family members who are jws.
if they are talking about this you can bet that others are too.
they seem to be all excited that a lot of attention in the news right now is about climate change, greta, extinction rebellion etc... as you can image they are very smug saying see.
Watchtower and JWs do absolutely nothing toward saving our planet or being more environmentally friendly.
Those who drive around needlessly in the ministry must have a huge carbon footprint. At least in the UK JWs walk in the ministry, usually.
So they are among those “ ruining the earth” if that’s the way they want to interpret it.
paganism from my view is just a mental fantasy.
it's not real.
so why do jws get mad at it anyway?
“Pagan” was simply the Israelite term for the rural poor who were left behind in Canaan and Jerusalem during the Babylonian captivity.
since those who were taken were the upper classes, they looked down upon the poor rural Jews they returned to, because their religious ideas had now diverged. The Babylonian captives had absorbed religious ideas of their captors - for example the concept of light and dark, of absolute good and absolute evil - and had lost the anthropomorphised god with human frailties (such as jealousy) that those left behind still retained.
it's easy to get bogged down with life and think you're not getting ahead or progressing.
but regardless of where we think things may be going, pretty much everyone who's come through this site is an achiever who's done an amazing thing in one way or another even if they may not think about it.. so think about it!.
you got past and over your programming and indoctrination.
RayofLight2014 It’s interesting Sinead begins her song with the quote famously used by that offshoot of a religious cult - Alcoholics Anonymous. I’m 50\50 with how much good versus how much damage that pseudo religion does.🤔
it's easy to get bogged down with life and think you're not getting ahead or progressing.
but regardless of where we think things may be going, pretty much everyone who's come through this site is an achiever who's done an amazing thing in one way or another even if they may not think about it.. so think about it!.
you got past and over your programming and indoctrination.
Xanthippe Well said Simon! My husband and I volunteered for a charity called INFORM based at the London School of Economics for a while after we left the JWs. It helped people learn about religious cults of all kinds.
Does it still exist Xanthippe? I studied for a bit at LSE. It was at that period my eyes were opened (Further education really is an enemy of cults) Boy just finding your way around that campus was hard enough, let alone the work! They also had a Confucius centre there, which always interested me.
Thank you Simon. You yourself have contributed greatly to helping people break the shackles and become masters of their own destiny. At any time during human civilisation that is not something many have had the luxury of doing.
hi friends ,i sent an e-mail to the irwin zalkin law firm in the usa ,i`m in australia ,thanking them for going to bat for all those sexually abused in the jehovah`s witness religion.. just letting them know that what they are achieving is not going unnoticed by ex -jw`s around the world with the success they are having and hopefully will continue to do.. that was yesterday .. today i received a reply ,thanking me for my kind words ,and that they are doing the best they can.. it was nice for such a prompt reply.. i just thought i would share that with you all..
Vidiot The Org leadership bend over backwards to snuff out any suggestion that they're not actually "God's Earthly Organization", and a pervasive, institutionalized, and endemic problem like CSA - especially in the #MeToo era - calls that claim into question like nothing else.
Exactly. THIS is why they don’t report. They don’t really care about what the wider world thinks of them. If they do it’s only inasmuch as they don’t want Jehovahs witnesses to find out.
Because if the problem gets big enough, information disseminated and the witnesses DO find out, as you say it will definitively prove Watchtower is not Gods chosen organisation.
last sunday's watchtower tells the story of a man who:.
was baptized in 1908 at the age of 20. he was very confident that he would soon receive his reward.
in fact, when he proposed marriage in 1911, he told his prospective bride, pearl: “you know what is going to happen in 1914. if we are going to get married, we better do it soon!” did this christian couple give up the race for life when they did not receive their heavenly reward in 1914?
Even when I was a true believer I used to think it was absurd that one could be anointed purely through the accident of birth. So being born between the late 1800s, when Watchtower was created, and around the 40s. ALL of these people, no matter what their nature, should be anointed.
The chance that out of millions of Christians that BOTH this couple were anointed. The hubris of it!! It’s really very arrogant, isn’t it?!!
This is why we had some quite cantankerous old birds claiming to be anointed in the 70s and 80s LoL.
Even as kids we used to wonder why God chose such unpleasant characters to spend eternity with LoL!! Of course we were told it was because god could see “ the secret person of the heart” and that gods ways weren’t mans etc etc
last sunday's watchtower tells the story of a man who:.
was baptized in 1908 at the age of 20. he was very confident that he would soon receive his reward.
in fact, when he proposed marriage in 1911, he told his prospective bride, pearl: “you know what is going to happen in 1914. if we are going to get married, we better do it soon!” did this christian couple give up the race for life when they did not receive their heavenly reward in 1914?
Today, I'm perfectly content knowing that one day I will join my ancestors in death.
That’s how I see it iusetobeadub. I’m going home....home to my people....to my grandparents and great grandparents, my great uncles and aunts and, sadly, I will be joining my beloved brother, too.
we would laugh at the Japanese leaving gifts and prayers to their ancestors but really they have done so much for us. We stand on their shoulders. The knowledge they gained through blood sweat and tears, the trees they planted, the drugs and vaccines they trialed so we could be healthy, the books they wrote and the bridges they built.
We would be nothing without them and wherever they are is where I am happy to go too.
with the ramped up rhetoric the last few years many were totally convinced the end would be here by 2019-20 .
and instead of making due, the org.
has burdened the brothers once again to donate and volunteer for the new and improved patterson and video production center to be completed by 2026!
P.E. i wasn’t even supposed to graduate high school... 16 years ago.
Make that 30 for me.
Anyone raise me on 30?? Going once....
with the ramped up rhetoric the last few years many were totally convinced the end would be here by 2019-20 .
and instead of making due, the org.
has burdened the brothers once again to donate and volunteer for the new and improved patterson and video production center to be completed by 2026!
Every other building will be flattened. maybe some halls will survive
What happened to moving to the holy city of Jerusalem
When I was young we were taught/believed that nothing would survive of the old world including all the concrete Bethel building etc that these are eyesores that won't be around. Instead greenery and building our own wooden places would be the thing.
When did they build this Patterson by the way, anyone know?(I live in the UK) I remember seeing that video of the farm in the mid nineties and being shocked at the scale.
would jehovah kill her?
or would she be shunned by her religion as a whole?
say anything you would think of..
If she had quickly married....
She would have survived.
She would have been the property of her husband and thus no one else would have the right to dispose of her AND...
She would not have been a pure virgin (the REAL reason she was sacrificed), the 'first to see her father' was a later cover-up for child sacrifice. To appease the gods you offered your best and brightest, your most valuable.
