Posts by Diogenesister

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Your thoughts?

by Iamallcool in

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https://www.watoday.com.au/world/jehovahs-witnesses-recover-best-from-surgery-despite-refusing-blood-20120703-21fi1.html .

The cohort of non Jehovah’s Witness patients was vastly larger than the Jehovah’s Witness cohort and I can tell you now that patients with potentially the worst outcomes, who won’t take blood, the doctors won’t touch with a barge pole. The cohort of JW patients will be generally fairly healthy relative to many of the other patients. Not to mention the JW patients will have had far better pre surgical care, which in and of itself will lead to better outcomes.

It may be that in the instance of elective surgery, avoiding blood transfusions and or keeping the heart beating (in the case of heart surgery) does indeed lead to better outcomes. But that doesn’t negate the fact that if you need blood due to any number of reasons including trauma and cancer nothing but blood will do.

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Dealing With Smelly People

by minimus in

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i can never understand why some people simply stink.they don’t smell themselves??

i knew of certain jws that had to be counseled many times because they refused to regularly bathe, wash their hair or use deodorant.

and it’s not just witnesses.

Diogenesister

I had a maths teacher, a very sweet woman, but utterly unable to control the class.

Anyway she was an otherwise very clean lady but she obviously had a medical issue with excessive under arm perspiration. And to make it worse she had a fondness for silk shirts, which is absolutely the worst thing to wear if you sweat a lot since you would see huge wet stains under arm. Poor lady, the other kids would make the nastiest comments which I hated. The worst thing was the more cruel they were, the more upset she got and the more she perspired.

In the chemist they sold (and still do) a super strong antiperspirant deodorant for people with this problem and I tried to get up courage to tell her about it but always chickened out in the end.

Most people who smell to the point others are offended almost certainly suffer with depression.

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Huge JW storyline (blood) on Chicago Med (US TV Show)

by tresdecu in

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anyone else watch chicago med last night??

one of the writers had a bone to pick...made the dubs look like a cult.

(not hard to do, i know) very realistic, and they got all the lingo right.

Diogenesister

that for real? Sounds like a JW writer on the show, if you ask me! Seriously, sounds like something JW Broadcasting would come up with to make the "World" look bad, and also as some sort of lesson as to what happens when you leave Jah's Organization. (GAG)

No they like complex, layered storylines. The parents don’t really want him to die, so to save him and salve their consciences, they walk out. It makes them look bad to anybody else, but actually it’s the kindest thing believing JW parents can do. Let’s face it we all know JW parents who would demand no blood as next of kin, whether their kid was a dub still or not.

And the patient getting mad at the doctor is a nice little plot twist.*

* NB haven’t seen the show, just surmising as a fan of ”The Craft” as they term screen writing😉

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Selling KH to another religion

by blondie in

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i found this question box in the july 1969 km.

question box (july 1969, p. 4).

• is it all right to buy a church building for use as a kingdom hall or, when a new kingdom hall is built, to sell the former hall for use as a church?

Diogenesister

It’s ok to sell and buy because ultimately that’s all about making profit for Watchtower. But no renting....we don’t want our donations going into someone else’s pockets!!

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If I was still PIMI, I'd be terrified

by neat blue dog in

just looking at the pictures in tomorrow's wt study makes me think of the nightmares i used to have as a child.

and nowadays the pictures are sometimes more realistic, so for any who are truly mentally in, this has a terrible effect on them and even their life choices.

looking in as a pimo or pomo it seems almost comical that adults would believe in this sci-fi bible fan-fiction, but it's not funny when we remember that all ages of the r&f are being manipulated by the gb by these cheap and evil means.. .

Diogenesister

Didn`t one Angel kill off 185,000 in one night ?

In actual fact Hezekiah just paid them off. So many barrels of gold etc (the Bible briefly mentions bunging Sennacherib's Assyrian army some silver but in Sennacherib writings it was a good deal more than the Bible admits. The few dead on the field were likely their own people, captives.

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If I was still PIMI, I'd be terrified

by neat blue dog in

just looking at the pictures in tomorrow's wt study makes me think of the nightmares i used to have as a child.

and nowadays the pictures are sometimes more realistic, so for any who are truly mentally in, this has a terrible effect on them and even their life choices.

looking in as a pimo or pomo it seems almost comical that adults would believe in this sci-fi bible fan-fiction, but it's not funny when we remember that all ages of the r&f are being manipulated by the gb by these cheap and evil means.. .

Diogenesister

Spirit creatures with facial hair?? Why do spirit creatures need hair to keep them warm, and prevent sweat getting into their eyes or .....nether regions etc? 🤔

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The new JW Bible

by silas hobbs in

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i was recently informed that the new jw bible was reviewed by some academic type person who rated it as one of the best translations available.. has anyone heard of this person and if so what is his reasoning for giving it such a compliment?.

Diogenesister

I don't know about that particular review being "new", I seem to recall that name a couple years back?

One interesting thing I did learn yesterday, however, is one of the main reasons scholars are certain Paul didn't write the pastoral epistles (Titus, the Timothys, replete with infamous statements about both woman and slavery), is because these epistles are hierarchical. Ie they are written to "church leaders". A hierarchy among Christians was unknown in the first century and within the new testament.

The pastoral's were written by the same man, almost certainly inserted much like watchtower has, when it became obvious the church was going to become a long term institution and as such these epistles became a method of control.

Paul believed Jesus' arrival was imminent and as such no other authority was needed.

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Ray Franz - Why The Watchtower Cannot Reform

by Anna Marina in

this is me reading a letter ray kindly sent to me in 2008 explaining why the watchtower was not capable of reform.

the letter is full of wisdom and is very informative.. ray franz's letter to me - why the watchtower cannot reform.

Diogenesister

Oh Anna Maria that was beautiful. Rays letter was immensely touching. That stupid organisation had no idea what a treasure it lost. Even Negan, an anti-hero on the Walking Dead knows that “people are resources”, something the Watchtower is ignorant of, since the individual is nothing to them. Like the Catholic Church it’s a behemoth of a battleship that takes miles to turn around and there’s nothing the people at the helm can do to avoid crushing those in its path, even should it want to. The only thing to do is abandon ship and let it run aground itself, as it’s sure to do eventually.

I love your artwork, by the way. It’s very distinctive and I always know it’s yours. You’ve definitely found your own path when it comes to art, which isn’t easy!

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Creepy display

by neat blue dog in

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i dunno about you, but if i walked up to this display at an expo i'd be a little creeped out..

Diogenesister

I think there is something vaguely disrespectful having TV screens at the front of the podium in a “church” the way they do in a Kingdom Hall.

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Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

by Doug Mason in

i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

(1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

Diogenesister

Scholar Young's article is simply a hypothesis

All academic articles are “simply” hypothesis, since, in theory, if someone comes along with a better argument the author will accede to it. I would have thought a scholar would know that.