anyone heard of vera de saint croix?
if fred franz had got married she would have been the one he would have married.
she wasn't his girlfriend but she was a very special lady to him.. that's all i know.
I was just going to say Waton!!’ what a name for the girlfriend of basically the co~ creator of the modernJehovah’s witnesses!!! Anna Marina You’re a hive of unusual information! Do tell more!
I wonder if he didn’t marry her because of her name! You know how superstitious JWs are, ironic I know.Very posh! Bit like Bouvier ( Marge of course!)!!
Personally, I always assumed he was gay.....
i don't know what i am talking about... read this post at your peril.
back in the 1960s there was, seemingly, a brief period of relaxation in authoritarianism among jehovah's witnesses.
those who have read raymond franz's 'crisis of conscience' will have heard the story about dan sydlik's remark about the need to 'open some windows to let some air in here'.
ding dong the witch is dead...
which old witch?
The wicked witch.....
and when the elders come acalling you can say:
"You have no power here, be gone with you; before someone drops a house on you too..."
we brits are being bombarded with facts and speculation about the horrific consequences of either corbin or johnson getting into power .
another thread has discussed the anti-semitic leanings ( or not ) of corbin .
what do people think about the left's claims that boris would sell off the nhs ,only this morning l saw a post on fb saying that " america is demanding full access to nhs records " it has been pointed out by a political reporter on the bbc that the talks that the papers were leaked about happened before johnson became pm and these were just things that have been put on the negotiating table by the usa .
The Left's Jewish Problem - Jeremy Corbyn, Israel and Anti-Semitism by Dave Rich. If you have the slightest doubt about the reality of the left's hatred for Jews and Corbyn's complicity you need to read it too.
Oh give me a break. Corbyn is for the under dog in this situation, as are the left in most situation.
The left of his generation have fought against right wing racism all their lives. It’s cobblers to say they are anti Semitic just because they are anti Israeli policy.
here is a photo and article where the governing body claims that the new world bible translation committee and jehovah's ''spirit-begotten sons'' wrote the finest bible translation available to mankind.
the watchtower—study edition | february 2017.
“who really is the faithful and discreet slave?”.
The only thing the experts do agree on with watchtower is that Paul has no conception of the Trinity.
The worse thing they’ve done imho is substitute Grace for undeserved kindness. Undeserved makes it sound like they should scramble in the dust as lowly worthless beings. It makes it easier for Watchtower to demand JWs work for their salvation and be denied it at any time, even totally should they trip up just before the big A.
here is a photo and article where the governing body claims that the new world bible translation committee and jehovah's ''spirit-begotten sons'' wrote the finest bible translation available to mankind.
the watchtower—study edition | february 2017.
“who really is the faithful and discreet slave?”.
Question: "Is the pope the Vicar of Christ?"
Answer: The term "vicar" comes from the Latin word vicarius, which means "instead of." In the Catholic Church, the vicar is the representative of a higher-ranking official, with all of the same authority and power that that official has. Calling the pope the "Vicar of Christ" implies that he has the same power and authority that Christ had over the church.
Jesus said that many would claim his authority saying I am he.
Oh it’s worse than that.
Watchtowers October-Pope claimed that THEY TAKE THE PLACE OF CHRIST. and are mediators between God /Christ and Jehovah’s witnesses of the great crowd.
this is what my children tell me... get over the whole jehovah's witness thing!
yes, they tell me they have gotten over the whole thing and they tell me that and i need to also.
my exgirl friend who was raised as a jw also has said the same thing.. my children say they got over it, however they are quick to point out how messed up their lives are now because of no college education and other missed opportunities.
The Bethelite.
Ive read your work and your posts and I know the suicides have deeply affected you. Traumatised you more than anything. Have you ever thought of working for the Samaritans or another suicide hotline? A dear, dear friend of mine took his own life 4 years ago next June. I will never get over it.
Im completely with you on this. If you did get over it you would be in humane imho. Do your kids speak to their mother? If not they may be more damaged than they think.
asking 4 a friend.
Well it’s one thing muddle through pioneering ( but really sitting in coffee shops or next to a cart all day) if you are genuinely disabled. We all know few of them genuinely preach all day. But it is quite another to go ahead and have 4 kids but instead of bettering their life working free for Watchtower whilst claiming to be available for work.
the old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.
if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.
the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.
Doug have you read this book “ The coming of Age of Quantum Biology” by Jim Khalili ( TV guy?)
at 95 , queen elizabeth is one sharp lady.
she lauded those people that helped break up a terrorist attack.
she didn’t take any crap from prince andrew and told him to take a hike.
Hey The Queen allowed that that gormless idiot son of hers to live a life of decadence bestowing this that and the other on him to boot. Do you think she would have dismissed him without the pressure she’s come under from the people? Not a chance! She didn’t have a choice.
After the Diana fiasco she’s learnt to trust her advisors.
we had our first family thanksgiving gathering this last thursday with our youngest sons family.
before we started to eat we went around the table saying what we were thankful for.
what our granddaughter had to say brought tears to our eyes.
ADD Oh my goodness that is heartbreaking (in a good way). It makes me think of everything other children miss out on - something more precious than grandchildren - yes, I said it. grandparents. Nothing even comes close to the love a kid feels for his or her grandparents.
I own my life your grand daughter is stunning. She is going to be a very beautiful young woman!
