Posts by Diogenesister

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Unbelievable Freddie Franz Admissions

by Vanderhoven7 in

unbelievable admissions.. freddie confesses he fell for his own propaganda.. https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.

Diogenesister

Vandy can you send me a link to the video you posted? I think it’s been taken down.

Researchers into Fred Franz early life discovered he didnt even sit the exams for the Rhodes Scholarship (I imagine he would have been competing with many others throughout the whole USA!! So I don’t know what his chances were).

He completed just two semesters of undergraduate studies. None of which were in Hebrew. Fred Franz was a liar in my opinion. It seems to come with the territory of being a JW leader. I simply don’t believe a person with a truly exceptional intellect would fall for Russell’s gobble-de-gook.

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David Splane's 2020 Conventionl talk ....''Jehovah has to come first''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

'' has your desire to put jehovah first been tested during this pandemic?

you lost your job and you searched for another one.

finally, after a long search, you found one but it was a job that would require you to miss all your meetings and field service.

Diogenesister

“But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.“1 Tim 5:8

Have you never heard that scripture, Mr. Splane? It reads very straightforward. No ambiguity there....no way Watchtower can twist those words. But you said :

”A family member may wish to provide for his family....?”

A kid doesn’t need to take that paper round. Auntie Ethel has no responsibility to finance great grandads car....but head of households - parents - must support their kids”

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Is There a Higher Conscious

by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.

i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.

here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.

Diogenesister

cofty2 hours ago

LTTBK - You are confusing having an open mind with a head that is so open your brain fell out.

🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

sorry LTTBK I’m not laughing at you, but you’ve got to admit that’s funny!

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Never Forget 9/11

by minimus in

jw
friends

tomorrow is the anniversary of 9/11/2001.

i hope we never forget what happened that fateful day and learn from what happened.❤️.

Diogenesister

The extreme Bin Laden philosophy is what was the problem. The world is not a safer place since that horrendous day. Terrorism is the norm today. We always have to be vigilant and never forget what can happen again and WHY it happened.

Yes. And that was the result of extreme *”Wahabism “ , the form of Islam enforced , promoted and financed by the Saudi Royal family. I don’t believe the Mujahadeen played any part in forming his extreme views.

Believe me it was traumatizing for most people. When I heard the cry of someone actually trapped in the building I blacked out. It was a primordial response to one of my species being so terrified I think.

*may have spelt that wrong

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BLM ambush two police officers sitting car. Then try to storm hospital saying I hope they die. This is the new left.

by mickbobcat in

https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.

Diogenesister

True that Mustard. Blacks live in a rotten self imposed culture.

whist you borrow from said “rotten culture” ( “True that” is a Jamaican saying, originally. It’s called ‘cultural appropriation’ dontcha know!)

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EMMA PEEL (Adieu)

by Terry in

jw
friends

emma peelyou’re oh so thrillin’ when you’re bashin’ in a villainin a tight black leather catsuit, yes indeed!head held highyou won’t dawdle but accelerate the throttle as you .

toss a wink to handsome partner steedemma pealyou crave adventure in your role as an avengercool and pretty with such witty repartee’deserving of a kudo with the lithe and limber judoyou’re the boss with every tosser comes your wayemma pealmay break the rules but she’ll never suffer fools(though she’ll make the fools soon suffer for their crime!

)nemesis to haughty ones, a darling to her audiencethe champion trendsetter of her timeemma pealwe’d love to kiss you every fan is gonna miss you(i am reaching for the tissue) as i cryas a true and loyal fan ireally know (you are diana)it’s the ending of an era bye and byebeautiful dianafond adieu …rest in peace my angellove, terry.

Diogenesister

Wow. That’s fantastic Terry.

It was a sort of Rap....the way it was structured and best said aloud. I mean YOU threw away the rules, too. Sorta. Shit. I’m very impressed sir. I think her family would surely appreciate reading that.

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California passes bill lessening penalty for pedophiles having sex with willing kids.

by mickbobcat in

i was wondering about this.

if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.

so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.

Diogenesister

Diog - Doesn't this law permit a 24 year old to have anal sex with a 14 year old? In the rest of the world we call that pedophile rape.

i agree Cofty. But surely that’s a slippery slope argument? The judges are there to adjudicate - work through the subtleties of each case.

However I agree ten years is too big of a gap. Five years is far more appropriate.

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California passes bill lessening penalty for pedophiles having sex with willing kids.

by mickbobcat in

i was wondering about this.

if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.

so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.

Diogenesister

This is part of the left trying to decriminalize and allow pedophilia and child abuse.

this is just plain hysterical Simon. How many on the board had sex at 16 or 17, whether married or not, to their partner?

Well I put my hand up to it. My partner was 19 (now husband) Anyone who denies they wanted to, at that age, is probably lying.

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Disfellowshipped for NOT activating my camera on ZOOM meeting

by Aleph in

hey so i won't go too much into the details though there would be so much more to say....in a nutshell, you are repentant but not enough so we disfellowship you ....i asked, can you clarified this "not enough repentant" please ?as one of the reason of not being repentant : " you didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!

" they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep....so :.

- no scriptural basis.- abuse of power.- my phone can't handle to have its camera on more than 20 minutes.then they yelled " jehovah does want you in the congregation" !like you are not welcome here....strangely to me, isaiah 1:18 and the story of the prodigal son tells a complete different story....well the whole bible is about love forgiveness and repentance !!

Diogenesister

Dude... your story starts as being df’d fir not having your camera on. When questioned you admit to fornication.

You can lie to us, you can lie to the congregation, hell you can lie to the desert god, but i hope you learn not to lie to yourself. Self honesty, self awareness, being able to see yourself objectively, these are some of the greatest gifts a man can have.

He has every right to be annoyed!! Don’t be so high and mighty!

Even by Witness standards it’s extremely dodgy to use the fact of someone’s camera not being on/possible technology failure, as the measuring standard of a persons commitment to God or spirituality!!!!!

It’s obvious English is not his first language and he clearly said they claimed he was not repentant enough to be reinstated, so he was effectively disfellowshipped for “attitude” rather than the particular sin.

In fact everyone is DF for their “face not fitting” or not being related to the right people, etc, since we are all DF (in theory at least) not for the sin, but whether we are “sorry” enough.

He may have many reasons not to want to be DF we all know that, As MickBob said, use their 2 witness rule and admit to nothing!

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Why don’t couples have to remarry when becoming JWs?

by enigma1863 in

you have to get baptized even if you were baptized in several other religions so why don’t they require you to remarry your spouse, especially if you were married as a mormon or muslim and had multiple wives.

some countries legally allow polygamy so you couldn’t necessarily just go by the laws of the country right?

these problems probably never come up though because i bet not many flds or muslims become jws.

Diogenesister

If it's a guy who had multiple wifes etc...in that case you'd probably have to pick a favorite wife, and re do the marriage legally in that specific country.

Watchtower did an article about such a situation. You have to remain only with your first wife, and you don’t have to re-marry her since it’s already the only legal marriage, as far as Watchtowers western-centric eyes are concerned. Which is funny, considering how focused they are on the polygamous Old Testament and it’s “principals”.

Indeed It’s not that uncommon, or at least it wasn’t back when watchtower was making converts in the 70s, 80s and 90s.

You’d Probably imagine it would be relevant to converts in Nigeria or Mali, but actually western “polygamists” are told the same thing....ie people who divorced their first partner and remarried before they became JWs. Because I’ve known people who were told they couldn't be baptized UNLESS they asked their first spouse if they wanted them back. Fortunately they never did. But it they had, the poor publisher would have had to leave their current partner and remarry their ex (first) spouse!!