Posts by Diogenesister

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Elders accused of playing rape tape to victim, 15; case goes to Utah Sup. Court

by Corney in

a woman is suing a local congregation ("kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses, roy, utah, an unincorporated association"), individual elders and watchtower ny after, she claims, a judicial committee forced her to listen an audio recording of her own rape.

the trial court summarized the facts as alleged by the plaintiff as follows:.

at the time of the judicial committee, plaintiff was fifteen years old.

Diogenesister

My heart has always gone out to the victim and parents. They have been members on this board for years, and I met them at the Tahoe Appostafest years ago.I

m shocked! Whoever you are, you are an incredibly brave family.

Im not sure how much satisfaction you will receive, even should you win. We know Watchtower never says “sorry”. Ultimately that’s what victims want....no more victims.

One thing I’m sure of though. If you manage to change the entrenched, atavistic attitude of this Mormon state, you will have made the lives of many, many children far safer. Making sure all religions are called to account when they sanction child abuse, by turning a blind eye at best and at worst re-victimizing the child, is no greater testimony to your bravery. The ‘church inviolable’, no matter how despicable It’s behavior, has got to be changed!

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At what point does the head quarters put out workers?

by mickbobcat in

at what point does the jw head quarters put people out.

i know if they get pregnant and are not essential they are gone.

what about injuries, illness ect?.

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He was slow not due to being lazy but he was very old in his 80s. It was a pity job.

This is why we need a decent charity for cult victims. I can’t tell you how angry that makes me.

Now THAT makes me want to throw a bucket of cold water over those fat cat Watchtower lawyers Who you can BET are getting the full worldly salary for the hours and HOURS of useless stalling and generally appalling law advice they over charge watchtower for.

The JW accountants that are paid top dollar to squeeze every penny out of the government in aid and grants ie for printing literature in obscure native languages etc

Not to mention the JW big business men. “brothers” who get the big watchtower contracts, FULLY knowing its bullshit, but financially on to such a good little earner they’d never leave.

People often ask, “but who really stands to gain” and apart from governing body (and governing body helper) adulation, the aforementioned are the real JW financial winners.

And not one of those bastards would give that old brother so much as a sniff off of their turd😩 Just as if it were - oh, I don’t know - a business

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Vale Helen Reddie

by smiddy3 in

yesterday i learned that helen reddie had passed away at 78 years old.two of her hits that she was famous for are "iam woman" and "angie baby" .

"i am woman" was taken up as the national anthem of the femminist`s movement.. i think she had a lovely voice and was a swell gal.. r.i.p.

helen reddy.

Diogenesister

Amazing voice. Very sad.

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Elders accused of playing rape tape to victim, 15; case goes to Utah Sup. Court

by Corney in

a woman is suing a local congregation ("kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses, roy, utah, an unincorporated association"), individual elders and watchtower ny after, she claims, a judicial committee forced her to listen an audio recording of her own rape.

the trial court summarized the facts as alleged by the plaintiff as follows:.

at the time of the judicial committee, plaintiff was fifteen years old.

Diogenesister

Gotta worry about Government getting its hands into religious debates.

DOC are you serious? This goes way, way further than “religious debates”. I would go as far as to say those elders participated in CRIMINAL behavior.

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I bought these two books out garage saleing

by mickbobcat in

the truth that leads to eternal life at a church rummage sale.

1968 printing and a 74 printing of god's eternal purpose now triumphing for mens good.

i know the truth book has some things in it that are a bit damning.

Diogenesister

Also do cults carry out mind control? If yes, why do people leave? Shows the issue isn't mind control. But it could be mind manipulation. Then you get back to the issue of is this a secular or a theological problem?

Anna Marina I think another poster had the right idea when he said that elders are human resource managers and watchtower is a corporation (which of course it is). We need to treat it like he multi level marketing fraud it is....if there was a way of dealing with watchtower the corporation, watchtower the “religion” would soon disappear within a generation. Without the cash the management would no longer have the power (Jwbroadcast, the books, magazines and lawyers to steal their Kingdom Halls)to effect cruelty on JWs.

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Anthony Morris wants former Jehovah's Witnesses DEAD

by neat blue dog in

in a disgusting new video, anthony morris iii talks about apostates, and brings to mind his 'hot dog' talk all over again as he anticipates the demise of ex-jehovah's witnesses.

i don't know if you're familiar with maggots, but when you see a whole bunch of them it's not a pleasant sight.. .

what a fitting picture of the final end of all of god's enemies.

Diogenesister

With all the booze inside him..he is lucky he didnt explode when he lit the match

🤣🤣🤪🤪Oh Stan you made me laugh for the first time in weeks. My brother died and I’ve been miserable as sin so thank you!!

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Zoog Mine Fire

by Bill Covert in

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the zoog fire is burning just outside of redding ca., 0% containment, 3 dead.

sounded like ww2 with air tanker traffic going over the house yesterday.

quite amazing the size of aircraft used; large jets, military air lift transport plus the prop jobs of cal fire.

Diogenesister

Does that mean the fire has been put out? Hope so. It’s very interesting hearing it from the horses mouth, so to speak. How do these fires start, by the way? Is it because temperatures are rising? Are they accidental?

PS I think the pandemic may have the witnesses running back { metaphorically!} to the Kingdom Hall, but when it dies down and the press gets hold of the child abuse scandal in the states things may change and witnesses may start listening.

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If The JW Religion Was A Person --You'd See How Mentally ILL - that person was.

by pistolpete in

i found this interesting observation .

u/mistermark21imagine if the jw religion was a person.

some guy who thinks that:.

Diogenesister

Best Reddit post ever! Very shrewd observation. You’d think them absolutely psychotic...god speaks only to him and he has a dreadful persecution complex. Classic schizophrenia.

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Where have the NWT Bible changed verses to fit their theology ?

by smiddy3 in

i can think of two to start off with .

john 1:1 and luke 23:43 ,what others can you come up with ?.

Diogenesister

This one really irritates me. They changed Ephesians 4:8 from “Gifts to men” or “gifts unto men” into “gifts in men”

A way to give more power and awe around COs and elders.

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Zoroaster spoke thus

by Doug Mason in

the following is from: cosmos, chaos and the world to come (pp.

222-224), norman cohn.

yale university press.

Diogenesister

Wow Doug that is absolutely fascinating , thank you. Like all ex witnesses I am rather obsessed with the origins of the book of Daniel. I’m going to order that book on kindle or Audible. Sounds fantastic.

Do you subscribe to the You Tube channel “Digital Hammurabi”? If not they are well worth a listen to. A married couple of academics with expertise in ancient near eastern languages. They have several videos/podcasts specifically on the book of Daniel, Doug.