Posts by Diogenesister

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Collapse of JW Org - Possibly on the Horizon?

by JWTom in

this topics get a great deal of discussion here.

what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.

wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?

Diogenesister

Disease: I think this one is unlikely, but an extreme amount of death due to Covid within JW.org could lead to not enough R&F drones to keep things going. Potentially leading to the financial scenario.

Perhaps it’s the take-the-lead drones dying off that could really lead to the collapse of the Org, at least as we know it (fascistic, controlling, demanding, guilt and fear inducing).

I think the only reason they’ve been so careful about COVID-19 is because it’s the LEADERS themselves - older, heavy, unfit even morbidly obese MEN - who are statistically most at risk of death, or at least long term debility, from Covid.

If they all die off we may end up with women leading the Org....heaven forbid!!!!

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why are all pictures of heaven in wt all white males?

by Yomama in

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is that the ultimate for anyone going to heaven?.

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The fact is the artists for WT need to follow previous drawings. In heaven all is shining so all seem white like Jesus in Revelation 1. (Yeah he's white there) So to follow from that the 144,000, must be like Christ.

You’re right that Watchtower has to follow everything it has previously stood by, they are terrified of the new and only allow ‘new light’ if they’re backed into a corner.

However Revelation 1:14 only says that Jesus hair is white. So ironically, because it is ‘like wool,’ black people (especially Rastas and that new American religion) claim Jesus is black!!

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Do You Believe In A “Deep State”?

by minimus in

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or do you think the idea of a deep state is malarkey?

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I guess when Trump declassifies the JFK files as he walks out the door the world will know.

Has he said he’ll do that?? Wow how to make yourself super popular with the proletariat in one fell swoop!

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Many Jw’s Love to Speculate About the New System

by Davros in

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a comment on another thread cracked me up where the poster related what some elder said on the platform that: .

in the new system, we likely will not have genitals.” lol.

i’ve heard so much speculation from many jw’s on what will and won’t be allowed in the new system.

Diogenesister

Davros- No gentials in that new world. How I 'm Going to hang my sign for a mate with no wedding tackle

I think they confuse who their Bible is supposedly written for, the scripture that says they will be neither male nor female is speaking about heaven. In other words it’s not meant for them.

The Witnesses I was most close to tended to have joined in the 70s and envisaged travelling slowly around the world, getting to know everyone. Spending eternity writing new books, learning to play instruments, learning to paint, learning every known language etc etc.

Its really quite sad since much of those hobby type activities can be done now. And for the more challenging things like learning Ancient Greek or some such they are sacrificing college to work for watchtower, again possible now if witnesses were not enslaved to a cult.

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Serial killer JW hopes to go to heaven soon.

by Lost in the fog in

guess that is the sort of person being attracted to the truth these days!.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-thinks-22976938.

Diogenesister

He’s been baptised. He is a witness. The reporter typically didn’t understand the difference between paradise and heaven. Sutcliffe means that there will be a resurrection for the “righteous and the unrighteousness”. The doltish reporter assumes that means heaven.

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Is this idea of cameras in judicial hearing true? An

by Yomama in

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and no more minors in judicial hearing?.

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And no more minors in judicial hearing?

Really? Are you sure it’s no more unaccompanied minors in judicial hearings?? Otherwise there’d be no way of disfellowshipping minors (and we can’t have that, now, can we?!)

It would be good if it were true, though.

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why are all pictures of heaven in wt all white males?

by Yomama in

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is that the ultimate for anyone going to heaven?.

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🤣🤣😂😂 A HAIRY white male, to boot!! ( albeit with a well kempt Hipster beard!!)

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Mr. Minimus, how do you feel?

by AbelJohn in

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just going by the topic titles you've been using these last few weeks.. do you think you can survive a whole four years with someone that's not exactly your favorite candidate?.

i know i'm in the minority from what i've been reading here, but i'm glad for the change!.

well, we all can't be satisfied altogether can we?.

Diogenesister

I think some kind of NHS would be great, but, again, I'm just concerned about all those who don't deserve it benefitting by it. And the money still has to come from people who

Thank you Magnum for explaining something that we in Britain find hard to understand. Do you not think everyone deserves medical care? Wherever they are from?

Im a determinist. I believe we don’t have free will.

Many things that you feel make people deemed ‘worthy’ of govt intervention - such as medical care, unemployment benefit etc etc - seem to be things such as ability to thrive via work or study, being an English speaker, integrating into a Northern European style culture etc I believe are mostly accident of birth. Yes, even ability to work hard is something that comes via either upbringing or DNA....in the same way musical ability is or sporting ability. When you realise that we, none of us, are in our relative situations in life from purely our own efforts you will see that either no one - or everyone - is deserving of medical care etc etc

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Mr. Minimus, how do you feel?

by AbelJohn in

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just going by the topic titles you've been using these last few weeks.. do you think you can survive a whole four years with someone that's not exactly your favorite candidate?.

i know i'm in the minority from what i've been reading here, but i'm glad for the change!.

well, we all can't be satisfied altogether can we?.

Diogenesister

Actually mean Mr. M reminded me of something.

My husband said this morning “I don’t give a rats ass who won as long as they do something about climate change”. I believe Biden is going to re-join the G7? I really think Trump let himself down by not moving on climate change issues. At the end of the day, right now, it’s all that really matters.

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The most thrilled topic but why dont people reply with facts/ figures

by Ardian in

the watchtower and awake have been listed as the most popular magazines.the figures are astonishing.

i am not sure whether it is based on reality or not.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.

i have seen the link on many social media networks.

Diogenesister

The article says the list is "based on their circulation and popularity." Circulation for Watchtower and Awake includes all the many thousands that are not placed in the field and that end up stacked up in JWs' homes, the many thousands that are placed, but, never read and that end up in the trash, and the many thousands that JWs get, but, don't themselves read... also, the stacks that are left at laundromats, those left under doormats at not-at-homes, etc.

The sad thing is that if it was a bunch of mags that were counted by the number that wholesalers buy, but that never get sold to the public, JWs would say “How silly those magazines aren’t popular, none are sold!” Yet that is exactly what is happening to the Awakes....Jehovah’s witnesses are like the wholesalers who buy in bulk but can’t sell them on! They are being duped! They think because no one person or company is making a profit from them it doesn’t mean Watchtower Bible and Tract of Pennsylvania inc. isn’t getting $tinking rich!