Posts by Diogenesister

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Fred Franz 85 talk on WTS History

by Vanderhoven7 in

learn why fred quit university to join the watchtower.

https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.

Diogenesister

Earnest did you listen to the speech? I'm talking about the above speech! He claimed to those in the stadium he had gained a place to study at Oxford university.

He's lying.

To actually apply for the Rhodes scholarship itself you don't actually take examinations, but submit a statement (or essay). Now your state may require you to take exams in order for them to choose their candidate/s, but that just means he was at several points of remove to even apply for the scholarship!!

We actually have a statement from the Rhodes society itself stating he is not on their list of successful candidates.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/201123/rhodes-scholar

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Drinking during Prohibition

by Davros in

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during a recent conversation i had with someone, a question came up that i really don't know the answer to.

did jw's still drink during prohibition in the us during the 1920's until it's repeal in 1933?

was alcoholic beverages considered forbidden and possibly subject to disfellowshipping?.

Diogenesister

Rutherford got Bible students to smuggle booze over the border for him...so yes, well, they drank at Bethel for sure.

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Fred Franz 85 talk on WTS History

by Vanderhoven7 in

learn why fred quit university to join the watchtower.

https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.

Diogenesister

Bible students "of prominence to be buried"?? I thought witnesses were all equal??

I was surprised to hear him lie out of his own mouth about having a place to study at ,"Oxford university college" ( there's no such place btw, There's Balliol college in Oxford, Jesus or Keble college in Oxford etc etc ) It was his tutor in his freshman year that suggested he might apply to obtain a place as a Rhodes scholar (so he claims). He didn't even apply let alone be accepted.

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Profanity on Surrey Kingdom Hall

by lssjr in

if it is a non-jw who did this as a result of their pandemic campaign (letter-writing and telephone calls), jehovah’s witnesses really need to check themselves.

they have been directed by their new york headquarters (since last year shortly after the start of the pandemic) to send letters to only people they know.

people don’t like receiving unwanted, unrequested, unsolicited letters and phone calls, especially from jehovah’s witnesses.. if it is a former member who received a letter as a result letter-writing pandemic campaign- most former members do not like being harassed by active jehovah’s witnesses and have been directed by their new york headquarters to send letters to and call only people they know.. .

Diogenesister

This wasn't someone annoyed at being called. No one is that bothered.

It's probably just kids up to no good. Look at the grammar, for one.

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Wife told me a tale about a letter writing experience and my BS meter was like "uhhh ya rightttttt"

by goingthruthemotions in

so me and my pimi wife are driving today and normally we don't talk anything about her stupid cult.

because it will end up with me saying something and her getting p.o'ed.

well anyways i have been trying to just ignore the bs and keep my mouth shut.

Diogenesister

JWUD Well, to be honest, that is one of the ways that JWs draw people in. They call on, send letters to, and visit people who are at risk. They draw in the lonely and people who need help. I saw this happen all the time. It is very possible that an elderly woman received such a letter and carried it in her purse. It is highly unlikely that the person who helped her was the same person who sent her the letter. The JWs often inflect truths with non-truths.

I was thinking that, too JWUndubbed . It’s not unusual for the elderly to carry & treasure personal letters of any kind. Maybe there to read fully at an opportune moment.

The unbelievable part is that it was the same person.

Its very typical for witnesses to embellish stories in order to validate their beliefs and virtue signal to other dubs.

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Wife told me a tale about a letter writing experience and my BS meter was like "uhhh ya rightttttt"

by goingthruthemotions in

so me and my pimi wife are driving today and normally we don't talk anything about her stupid cult.

because it will end up with me saying something and her getting p.o'ed.

well anyways i have been trying to just ignore the bs and keep my mouth shut.

Diogenesister

I asked my wife, Is this a personal experience from the JW who told you or was it from someone else.

My wife said it was a personal experience.

sorry to say but I think that answer was a bit of “theocratic warfare” to encourage you !! Your wife probably justified it by thinking “well it was a personal experience”, just not by the woman who told it to her!!

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Self-righteous Watchtower vs the pagan-inspired New Testament.

by Island Man in

watchtower refuses to translate stauros as cross despite having no evidence to refute the long-standing ancient belief that jesus died on a cross; and in spite of evidence that the romans were in fact using crosses in executions by jesus' day.

they shun the word simply because of the use of crosses in ancient pagan religions.. watchtower refuses to refer to their places of worship with the word church because of the word's supposed pagan origin or past usage to refer to pagan places of worship.. now contrast watchtower's self-righteous attitude of avoiding the use of all words having pagan religious usages, with the new testament verse of 2 peter 2:4:.

certainly god did not refrain from punishing the angels who sinned, but threw them into tarʹta·rus, putting them in chains of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment.. tartarus is a word that had rich pagan mythological meaning when it was written in the nt.

Diogenesister

Just noticed this L.U.H.E.!

“By God I think (s)he’s got it!!”

Professor ‘Henry Higgins

One thing the WTS doesn't address: the Romans were indeed pagans in the 1st century CE. Their consciences wouldn't have been troubled by crosses having pagan origins.

Get out of that one, WT.

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U.K. Nurse Vaccinated With Covid Shot Has Covid Weeks After Getting Vac!

by minimus in

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someone i know from england is a nurse.

she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.

she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.

Diogenesister

I’m having the vaccine tomorrow.

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JW living on Military Bases?

by Iamallcool in

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friends

i just read that civilians can live on military bases.

i was wondering can jw live there and still be in a good standing?

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Diogenesister

I know You Tuber “Lady Cee” of Critical Thinkers grew up on military bases. Her mother was JW and her father worked for the military (meteorologist?), not sure if he converted later?

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Profanity on Surrey Kingdom Hall

by lssjr in

if it is a non-jw who did this as a result of their pandemic campaign (letter-writing and telephone calls), jehovah’s witnesses really need to check themselves.

they have been directed by their new york headquarters (since last year shortly after the start of the pandemic) to send letters to only people they know.

people don’t like receiving unwanted, unrequested, unsolicited letters and phone calls, especially from jehovah’s witnesses.. if it is a former member who received a letter as a result letter-writing pandemic campaign- most former members do not like being harassed by active jehovah’s witnesses and have been directed by their new york headquarters to send letters to and call only people they know.. .

Diogenesister

“Hate”???? That’s utterly ridiculous. It’s the witnesses that propagate hate. It’s about time that governments cotton on to the fact these cults brainwash kids into viewing their friends and neighbours as satanic, evil and worthy of death.

Can you imagine if a Muslim Madrassa were openly teaching such stuff to kids?? That god will soon murder all of their school friends (of other denominations) because they are controlled by Satan?!! It would be shut down in a heart beat.