i know there are a lot of 'wise heads' out there on this forum - so i would appreciate your suggestions.. several years ago, i studied with a guy, whose wife is a jw.
(he had studied with several elders before i came along).
the study went reasonably well.
I mean the thing is, if you can demonstrate the Bible is cobblers he won't become a witness anyway.
You could try showing him contradictions and go through Numbers and Judges, or some of the other murderous and ridiculous passenges?
Use socratic questioning, too.
As long as they stay our of the US politics and keep their dumb mouths shut, I'm fine with that. I don't want to hear their (or any other celebrity) opinions on how I should live, etc.
Er....Wing commander she's a yank...she's got every right to speak about US politics. đđ
I donât think she ever intended to be a full time âworking royalâ.
Shes nearly 40 for goodness sakes and has lived her whole life a free and independent woman who had a great time and did exactly as she wished. How on earth could she suddenly conform to that level of absurd formality, chock full of reams and reams of protocol every minute of every day.
Talk about a micro managed life.
Thatâs why they like to get them young so they can train them up! That - or marry people whoâve grown up around the court of St. James (whyâs it called that btw?) - such as Diana and Fergie. Both of whom literally lived on Royal estates as kids. They knew the form.
But the most intolerable thing for Megan is sheâs absolutely not allowed to have an opinion, or at least not make them public.
Harrys fairly easy on the eye, seems a nice guy and has a Bob or two. Sheâs got the title...why on earth would she want to put herself through that for a country she has absolutely zero connection to. However she should have made that plain from the start - and not make a fool of the Queen and insinuate sheâs racist, which couldnât be further from the truth. All new royal wives go through hell. In fact all royal women. Princess Ann suffered endless abuse in the 70s. Fergie in the 80s, too. Doesnât make it ok, mind you.
I donât blame her for leaving, but one thing does really annoy me, though, is they both bang on hypocritically about mental health. Yet, sheâs deserted and shunned her obviously mentally ill father who both raised her (as a single parent from age 11) and put her through private school and uni.
today, i was watching a tv show and a black celebrity in quebec said that his latest incident of racial profiling was being asked questions by the police as he was walking in a quiet neighborhood at 2am while wearing a hoody.
then the other guest next to him validated his claim saying that she, as a white women, was never stopped like this by the police.
i became very frustrated and agitated.
.....Because fairness is important to you. I am the first person to speak out on unfairness, too, due to my past, when I see it. Especially racism. I saw it all the time as a child but from where I was it was very dark skinned girls who were bullied by their lighter skinned black friends. In fact I often found it interesting that these very dark skinned girls would often marry white men, precisely because they didnt disparage them for their colour and simply saw a beautiful women.
this site was and remains instrumental in assisting people that want to leave the jw's.. there has been political discussion here for some time now, a good couple of years and it makes me feel a little uneasy.
i just opened up the site for the first time in some weeks, of the 10 posts being discussed, 4 were by the same poster, about politics, promoting their right wing beliefs.. this has been the trend for some time now, the same name behind a peppering of posts stirring the right v left of politics.. i remain forever grateful to the site and it's founders simon & angharad, i appreciate that simon shares some of these these political beliefs.
it would be a shame to see the site evolve from a place for jw freedom of thought and escape, to political squabbling, that the world is frankly tired of right now.. just to clarify, politics is my hobby, whilst my friends read the football scores, i'm reading polling data.
In the context of JW's and politics I have much to say as I was suppressed from being political or voting by the JW's. I was a pioneer that loved getting home early on Thursday nights to watch UK politics shows on tv. I was addicted to radio political talk shows and pundits. My parents actually chastised me for my interests, being a JW.
Just to say Snare & Racket my best friend and I grew up in 80s Britain. My friend, an intelligent girl and a real blue stocking who was literally top of our school in all the STEM subjects, once asked me in all seriousness "who Margret Thatcher" was (as her JW parents looked on approvingly)!!!!
gen 1: 11 says: .
11 then god said, âlet the earth sprout [j]vegetation, [k]plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to [l]their kind [m]with seed in themâ; and it was so.
12 the earth produced [n]vegetation, [o]plants yielding seed according to [p]their kind, and trees bearing fruit [q]with seed in them, according to [r]their kind; and god saw that it was good.
What is more important right now, in my opinion, is why does the Universe appear to be conscious
I agree. How any kind of consciousness arrives is simply incredible.
Itâs been described as watching a show on an old TV, you see the picture, but when you look inside the TV, thereâs only parts...
The picture/energy/frequency is being broadcast..
DD
Wow. Fantastic analogy.
gen 1: 11 says: .
11 then god said, âlet the earth sprout [j]vegetation, [k]plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to [l]their kind [m]with seed in themâ; and it was so.
12 the earth produced [n]vegetation, [o]plants yielding seed according to [p]their kind, and trees bearing fruit [q]with seed in them, according to [r]their kind; and god saw that it was good.
Well when I was a sprog Watchtower would say Genesis described things "as it would be perceived from the point of view of someone on Earth." So in other words, the Sun was there but because we couldn't yet see it, it kind of wasn't listed...so to speak.
Good grief.
i would like to get some feed back from pomo's who's spouse is still pimi.
since myself and our son's left the jw cult.
my wife has been m.i.a has a mom and a wife.
Presumably you no longer believe in god. Have you ever spoken to her about evolution? The history of the witnesses? The sort of man Rutherford was, that he left his JW wife and son for over 20 years and neither of them attended his funeral. About the scams...miracle wheat, Beth Sarim, the UN and Mexico Malawi scandals?
I know the usual policy is softly softly, the Socratic method....teach using questions. But I think in your case that ship is sailed. Iâm sorry, so very sorry for your kids. I say hit her with everything there is. Every piece of evidence.....if she leaves sod her. Sheâs not worth it. If you find some one else above ALL else make sure she has the biggest heart. Nothing else matters because those boys need it. Go find them a mother.
a lot of parents say teachers should full time get back to work and their kids should be back in the classroom..
Teachers in the UK should be vaccinated before returning to work. School kids drove the last massive spike in cases which nearly overwhelmed the NHS. I donât know about Canada, or many places in the US, but I know that funeral directors in California can barely cope with all the bodies so itâs an absolute myth that there are no more deaths than an average âbad âflu yearâ.
A good teacher is worth their weight in gold. No....way, way more than that.
thatâs what coca-cola is telling their employees.
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this is ridiculous!.
UK tv adverts--there has been a huge increase in the number of "black" persons featured recently.
Iâve noticed that. But they donât realise, in doing so, they are being even more racist. Because whilst thereâs an increase in black actors on t.v. In Britain itâs always meaningless advertising work, you donât see an increase in black actors or actresses with really decent, meaty roles.
You rarely see a happy, comfortable black family in these ads. Yourâll usually see a black, overweight single mother or an interracial couple.
Execs think by doing this theyâll keep everyone happy, but they end up annoying everyone. Black people feel patronised and white people see the PC BS.
