Diogenesister

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  If you could pick out critical errors to the JWS religion what would it be ?

  by Rocketman123 in

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  many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.

  somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".

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  Hi think it would depend who you were asking....another Christian, an agnostic, a Hindu or a Jew etc etc

  I can only answer from a Christian or agnostic perspective, I think. The shunning is pretty shocking. It doesn't come off as Christian behaviour. The non charitable stuff was quite a stumbling block, too. Surely that's the main tenet of Christianity? The concept of preaching being such charitable love of neighbour you can only do that is a very weak argument.

  It began because the colporteurs were basically book salesmen - it was essentially a job. Can you leave your job to go work in a soup kitchen? Usually not, hence the tradition of no charity in Watchtower. For people attracted by Christianity it's a H-U-G-E red flag.
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  Why dont practicing JWS cant accept the fact that the Watchtower Corporation is a commercialized false prophet ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  to the majority of people who investigate the activities of the wts from its beginning history there were obvious false proclamations and doctrines propagated by the wts.. a matter of fact the wts produced a long list of literature that posted proclamations on the front cover and went into detail of things that were suppose to happen, from jesus returning changing the world in which we live and so on.. wonderful things one might say but not factual or either theologically correct .

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  I also discovered today that the prosletysing had a method behind it too. Since the response at the door was mostly negative (and often rude), the publisher would get the warm and fuzzies returning to the fold. Surrounded by the brothers again, the object of preaching is to reinforce the coldness of the 'world'.
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  "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?"

  by Diogenesister in

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  can anyone remember the reasoning the watchtower gave for jesus speaking these words?

  if you have a reference that would be even better!.

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  Thank you ff ghost Yup. Watchtower wouldn't know irony if it hit them in the face with a wet fish🤣🤣

  Sea Breeze yours was a beautiful explanation. But Oh boy Watchtower has to drag David into everything and make him centre stage 😂

  Pistol Pete Dr. Price believes there's much gnosticism in the Greek scriptures
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  Lloyd Evans removing comments he does not like, just like the cult

  by mickbobcat in

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  i see posts that evans does not seem to like being removed.

  i guess he is not a lot different than the control cult he left.

  his rebuttal to the zoom assembly he said that dawkins made some silly comments about gender.

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  Aside from a few noisy annoying activists and ‘athletes’, most trans people are just trying to live their private lives like everyone else

  I agree jeffroI believe the genuine trans women are the ones, to be frank, we wouldn't even be aware of. It must be hard and painful and I can only imagine they just want to get on with it with as little attention as possible. My only concern is genuinely women's sports and as you say sexualising/indoctrinating etc young children by the loopies and parents with Munchausens syndrome by proxy!!!
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  Lloyd Evans removing comments he does not like, just like the cult

  by mickbobcat in

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  i see posts that evans does not seem to like being removed.

  i guess he is not a lot different than the control cult he left.

  his rebuttal to the zoom assembly he said that dawkins made some silly comments about gender.

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  Diogenesister

  Thanks for the link jeffro. I don't think it's currently a big disaster for women's sports (although for some women who compete, such as new Zealand weight lifters right now, may say it's a disaster for them personally)

  But it does have the potential to be so. The last thing we want is girls giving up their ambitions because they see mediocre men suddenly switching up and becoming female world champions :/

  As an aside, it's funny how its never the the male world number 1,2 or even 3 suddenly becoming female. I sometimes wonder whether it's about money, do they want to be top to get more sponsorship money??

  (Jeffro just to say I haven't disliked your comment btw 😜 unless by mistake lol. I rarely do even when I'm having a real ding ding with someone!)
  
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses—the Most Boring People On Earth!

  by minimus in

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  when i see watchtower videos or interviews i can’t help but notice how bland and boring jws really are!

  they are so vanilla.

  no excitement, just robotic conversation.. what the hell happened to these people?

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  I wouldn't say they are most boring people, religious sect

  I don't say witnesses are boring. But the religion itself is incredibly, unspeakably boring! The talks, the meetings.... oh lawdy! It's just repeat, repeat, repeat! Even the language, even the very words they use are the same. Even the timbre and intonation of their voices are the same!!

  Same subjects, same scriptures....need I go on😳😳😳🥱🥱🥱😴😴😴
  
  
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses—the Most Boring People On Earth!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  when i see watchtower videos or interviews i can’t help but notice how bland and boring jws really are!

  they are so vanilla.

  no excitement, just robotic conversation.. what the hell happened to these people?

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  All cults are famous for being boring. And soooo repetitive! Watchtower is typical in that regard.

  Frankly it's one reason, not often talked about, that they fail to attract youngsters to the religion.
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  Lloyd Evans removing comments he does not like, just like the cult

  by mickbobcat in

  1. social
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  i see posts that evans does not seem to like being removed.

  i guess he is not a lot different than the control cult he left.

  his rebuttal to the zoom assembly he said that dawkins made some silly comments about gender.

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  Are you just venting here because you purportedly can’t comment on Evans’ channel? You’re literally complaining over a couple of seconds out of a 4 hour video.

  Lloyds got a producer now so it's probably him removing comments.

  He's famous for removing comments and like a lot of EXJWs he's over sensitive to criticism. It's a bit petty considering how big his channel is now
  
  
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  Lloyd Evans removing comments he does not like, just like the cult

  by mickbobcat in

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  i see posts that evans does not seem to like being removed.

  i guess he is not a lot different than the control cult he left.

  his rebuttal to the zoom assembly he said that dawkins made some silly comments about gender.

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  Diogenesister

  One thing I don't understand is the (mainly women,) who are pushing back against the nonsense that men who have experienced a male puberty should compete in women's sports, is that no one mentions the simple test for XX or XY chromosomes in order to determine who may compete.

  Does anyone know why that is?

  They're currently assessing levels of testosterone so as to see whether someone born male may compete. I believe it's irrelevant. Sadly I also think intersex girls, if they have Y chromosomes, should not compete. It seems a simple enough test, so why don't people talk about it? I'm talking about the women who are currently trying to prevent it, not the supporters here. They never seem to use the XY issue. Why is that? Is there a medical reason for that? Is it possible for someone whose had a female puberty to be XY???

  I was in the most enormous Twitter fight over those idiots at BBC radio 4 After Dark discussing women's sports and not one single woman took part in the discussion (as an expert panelist)!!

  Lloyds very "right on" but people like that who are trying to be fair and scared of being prejudiced don't realise they're throwing women's sports on the trash heap. I think a lot of people are very naive about "autogynephilia" which I've personally come across quite a bit.
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  Why No Disfellowshipping Before 1952?

  by blondie in

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  why was there no official arrangement before 1952 to disfellowship people?

  was there a different procedure with a different name?

  was no one committing disfellowshipping offenses?

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  Diogenesister

  Doesn't he realise by highlighting scriptures about killing false prophets he's condemning himself out of his own mouth....

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