Posts by Diogenesister

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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Diogenesister

Revealed you may be interested in this link to a webinar with Dr. Bart Ehrman who is going to answer the following questions:

Soon after Jesus’ death, his disciples claimed that he was God

What did they mean by that? Was he the One and Only God, Yahweh?

Did they think he was God before he died, during his public ministry?

Did he himself think so? Did he say so?

In this lecture, we will look at what the evidence actually tells us

He is widely accepted as one of the world's foremost New Testament scholars, a master of Divinity and PhD professor at the university of Carolina, Chapell Hill.

This is the link to the webinar https://ehrman.thrivecart.com/bart-webinar/?affiliate=mythvision

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Dr. Bart Ehrman Live Webinar Did Jesus Call himself God?

by Diogenesister in

there's a live webinar with dr. ehrman on the subject of the divinity of jesus.

folks will be able to put questions directly to dr. bart, the cost is $14.00 with the webinar covering the following topics:.

• soon after jesus’ death, his disciples claimed that he was god .

Diogenesister

There's a Live Webinar with Dr. Ehrman on the subject of the Divinity of Jesus. Folks will be able to put questions directly to Dr. Bart, the cost is $14.00 with the webinar covering the following topics:

• Soon after Jesus’ death, his disciples claimed that he was God

• What did they mean by that? Was he the One and Only God, Yahweh?

• Did they think he was God before he died, during his public ministry?

• Did he himself think so? Did he say so?

• In this lecture, we will look at what the evidence actually tells us

It begins at 3pm EST (8pm GMT) 7/11/21 and the Link is below.

https://ehrman.thrivecart.com/bart-webinar/?affiliate=mythvision

If you are not able to attend, thinking about the above topics covered, WHAT QUESTIONS WOULD YOU PUT TO HIM?? If I get some good ones I may be able to pass them on.

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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

by Revealed in

simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

Diogenesister

Answer his question please.

Does it matter what his motive is? After all, aren't we here to help? Not be sarcastic?

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Is the jab required to attend meetings ?

by zachias in

my wife has begun to attend meetings at the kh.. do the wt ask if attendees have had the jab?

anyone know?.

thanks.

Diogenesister

In an indoor environment and no fresh air coming in, particularly during winter months.

A lot of Kingdom Halls are built with few windows to let in fresh air, using air con that probably won't have the best standard modern filters so blasts someone else's bugs straight at your face.

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JWs who are now paying the price of following the cult.

by mickbobcat in

my in-laws are two such people.

people who pioneered and did not work and try to save, instead they made just enough to get by and waited for the end to come.

now my mil is in palliative care and the state is paying for her keep, my fil lives in a dilapidated home and can not keep it up.

Diogenesister

Longhair GalThe generation before them (the Greatest Generation) has very few still surviving.

The generation before the "baby boomers" is called "The Silent Generation". The *"greatest generation" was the one before that.

*Always thought that was a funny term for group that encompassed the Nazis, Stalin's henchmen and the Vichy French.

Personally I think the Boomers were the greatest generation. They bought us kicking and screaming into a modern world of equality, took us to the moon and founded the computer age.

NB I'm gen X

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Three children families stop step decline in Mormon membership

by joe134cd in

i just posted this on a seperate thread, but i think it deserves its own thread.

this is with regard to the pew survey that states “2 out of three 3 born into the jehovah’s witness faith.

will not remain in the faith as adults.”.

Diogenesister

This is why I can't accept JW numbers joe134CD . If the Mormons need three children families to prop up numbers, and we know JWs don't have a lot of children and certainly are not making converts ..how can JW numbers have remained at 8 million for over ten years? Even with PiMO's included, It's just not possible!

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False members numbers

by asp59 in

is watchtower faking there member numbers?

i live in europe.

for the last 15 year's probably 25 person i knew or more were df, pimo, left by own will, inactive.

Diogenesister

WT wizard couldn't agree more.

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Hines v. Watchtower

by DNCall in

this could be a big one.

sexual abuse case naming the gb as co-defendants.

watchtower's response is due on january 21, 2022. here is the docket: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/documentlist?docketid=t1yahx0ao9yz84iphf0ypa==&display=all.

Diogenesister

Watchtower obviously don't trust their own useless lawyers for this one.

NB Jan...nothing to do with you I take it?☺️

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False members numbers

by asp59 in

is watchtower faking there member numbers?

i live in europe.

for the last 15 year's probably 25 person i knew or more were df, pimo, left by own will, inactive.

Diogenesister

At this stage they have to be using numbers of baptised individuals who haven't been df or DA. It's just not possible that numbers have remained at 8 million for the last, well, I don't know how many years.

In fact someone that worked at a branch headquarters (Russian, but possibly worked in Germany, this was before the ban) stated he knew for a fact, because they'd collated figures, that the number was nearer 5 and a half million. And that must have been five years ago.

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Alec Baldwin Shot a Woman Dead

by Simon in

so alec baldwin shot a woman dead on set and seriously injured another man.. what do we put this down as?

a tragic accident?

maybe ... except that implies no one was to blame.. the more you find out, the more it seems that this was due to negligence and lack of attention to safety.

Diogenesister

Pete I know nothing about guns being a Brit (only fired one WW2 gun belonging to a paranoid relative at 12😳the bullet lodged in Sid Barret's shed) but that video about gun safety is about the most sensible I've seen.