Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

mental health" seemed like an attempt to make out he was some kind of victim of something, even though everything that happened were his own life choices

That's what made Kim snap. He was pretending to his patrons he was having some kind of mental breakdown*.... When really he was pissed because his wife had caught him cheating and given him an ultimatum.

Someone who was having a genuine breakdown/depression/suicidal ideation was being further triggered by Evan's tweets, believing him to be suffering in the same way.

When Kim tried to ask Lloyd to be careful what he posted in case it pushed this young man over the edge, Lloyd reacted in a self centred, petulant way. Unable to see for once it wasn't just about him. Ranting about his "rights" to tweet.

*(He used the the catch all term "mental health". Like the controversial word 'woman' when something means everything, it ends up meaning nothing.)

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Michael Jackson's mom on his disassociation

by neat blue dog in

from an interview with ebony magazine:.

in 1987, he left the jehovah's witnesses.

there was strong opposition to his "thriller" video on the part of some witnesses.

Diogenesister

SBF Because it leaves open the window of hope that some parents won’t take a hard line, and if they do take a hard line it calls into question whether their actions come down to Watchtower loyalty or lack of parental love.

Yes, this causes so much pain and resentment.

Strictly speaking she's not wrong though, at least back then. Parents that converted in the 70s will have done so on the understanding that you weren't required to shun family, so even without his wealth she may have maintained contact.

There's so much inequality though: A wealthy child who financially supports their parents will be made an exception, due to the "essential family business" get out clause.

But most of all, being a woman, there's no chance of her having to give up privileges due to contact with a child. It's conceivable a pioneer may be called to account for it - but in my experience if it's a long time pioneer who does the congs heavy lifting in terms of hours, that's unlikely.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

The one person that might have made sense to sue was Kim Silvio, but he blew that up by making a video where he corroborated her claims.

Remember she had a witness. Producer Bob' was there too and heard his admission (which is kinda creepy since he'd never met her before)

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

because someone needs to be the janitor.

I don't know why, but you're giving me Hong Kong Fooey vibes☺️

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

incidentally, and off topic, I always thought this makes him look pretty humble and down to earth. I mean, he's off doing his own shopping, not just sending some skivvy to do it for him. Maybe not what you'd expect of a higher-up in any organization.

I actually thought the same. And he was quite happy to give some friendly advice to the chap in the store on what's a good, reasonably priced whiskey* (Jameson...I approve).

*Without preaching😆

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

NCC I have never read the book Moby Dick, but Lloyd is Captain Ahab to Watchtower's white whale.

Holy moly great analogy!😆🙌🙌

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Just watched Cappy tans interview.

1.Dijana is saying the screenshots are false.

2. Kim talks about what's going on with Dijana and Lloyd. He's an emotionally abusive A-hole. Apparently she was in pieces. When Lloyd went online and said he needs a break because "things aren't working out for him" it was basically a tantrum because Dijana had said "no more. It's not ok for you to be visiting prostitutes all the time" so...... he went to Thailand to try and stop his sex worker addiction!!😳As a FU to Dijana. He said to Kim "she doesn't even know what a massage parlour is!".

Dijana was left alone with the kids in bits.....all the time he's tweeting what a beautiful view etc and how he needs a mental health break .....it was all a lie. Oh....and her therapist thinks he's in an emotionally controlling, abusive relationship.

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An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

Diogenesister

It's really the Watchtower's own version of prosperity gospel

The bigger donation to Watchtower = the greater the Blessings for you - Jah will provide!

(Funny how Watchtower isn't willing to take a chance on earning a crust by making large charitable donations, too! 🤔)

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Simon says - what would you do if your husband was caught living the life he has and was unapologetic about it?

My tuppence worth:

I think it's a combination of things.

There's something very particular about Dijana's family situation which for different reasons I can identify with. Dijana's brother, whom by all accounts she deeply loved, committed suicide very young and her parents are elderly and rely on her care. Hence despite being apostates they still live with her JW parents. So I think Dijana's not just responsible for the kids, but her parents, too.

Another thing: She's also attending college.

I believe she's planning for her future and doing what she views is the best thing right NOW - not for Lloyd, not for her - but those she loves and is responsible for. I think there's an element of fear there, too. Of being left to alone to emotionally care for, but also financially care for, parents & kids without him (& his money) to help.

But im guessing she's not planning on being reliant on Lloyd - and you tube - forever.

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Re: Use of revised New World Translation

by pixel in

this letter will be read this week.

you read it here first!.

re: use of revised new world translation .

Diogenesister

S & R wow....... the religion I grew up in would not have once said this.... shameful.

My goodness no one needed to tell us to give Bibles out.....😳😳. You know I think this, more than any single change I've seen, makes the widest bridge to the religion I knew. It really is a different religion.