Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Listener LouGood - Could you please confirm whether that is Alexander Jaymes or James?

You wouldn't happen to know why she made her website JW Victims private and her Youtubes don't appear to exist anymore either.

I admire her greatly. She has so much insight as to the female side of being a JW.

Alexandra's website is on WordPress but private. You have to request permission to access it. I did so ages ago with no reply.

It's a real pity.

I believe she gave up after the BCG debaclè involving the usual suspects and a lot of misogynistic name calling.They attempted to publicly 'shame' BCG into allowing Covert to write a book on her experiences giving evidence to the ARC.

I wish I could access the Reddit post on it. Lloyd weighed in smearing BCG about giving Covert a bad name until I pointed out BCG had merely privately messaged Covert about it. Whereupon Covert made the whole thing public with a big Reddit post.

Anyway Alexandra sprang to her defence and was dragged through the coals by the 3 EXJW governing elders who cynically attempted to pull in Reddit followers to their 'cause' by the weight of their 'authority'.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Kim I found this that you mentioned

Re: Mark

is my opinion that Mark’s interest is in his promotion, not the promotion of information being shared. Mark hampered the opportunity for people hearing many views and opinions, information from many sources and a variety of topics.

I find this extremely disingenuous. Why do we need a few controlling information and being the spokespersons? He likes to get information out to the community, which is great, but why does he restrict others from getting information out too?

Re Mike and Kim

Motivation and intentions matter to me, responsible use of influence matters to me. I don’t always agree with Kim and mike’s opinion however I respect the fact that they try.

Kim you are not the only one who noticed this behaviour. You're far from the only one who feels this way.

Time and again I noticed the arrogance with which they liked to tell us they had to withhold information from us. If something was confidential I call tell you it was damn well confidential to them, too. And if it wasn't it should have been.

I appreciate the work Mark puts in and his writing is second to none, but as you say it's not a business. Lloyd said he was reimbursed fares & some appearance fees etc and didn't know "what arrangements Mark has with the law firms he works with". That's very disingenuous because I can tell him: nothing. He's not doing anything in a professional capacity. I'm sure he'll explain to lawyers how the watchtower works but it's nothing any exjw couldn't do. He's also putting out information/court docs that are available to the public.

Not everyone wants to do that. He does, and does it well. Fine. But cut out the arrogance and stop getting in the way of other people trying to help.

I know I always mention this but Mark Latham was going to help a journalist do a piece on CSA. Lloyd or Mark O'Donnell contacted said journalist and told them not to get involved with him. The journalist ended up dropping the whole article. How dare they! Mark and Louise got the whole IICSA Jehovah's witness ball rolling.

Your instincts are right Kim and I'm sorry YOU are baring the brunt of their anger. It's bloody awful.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Lou What does it take for a girl to get noticed around Lloyd? 🤣

Jeff Quick as a flash: Are you sure you want the answer to that?

Jeff I spat out my coffee at that one🤣😂I also pressed a dislike in my haste to 'like', sorry 😜

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Years REALLY DO FLY BY!

by somebody in

jw
friends

i just realized that i was 39 years old when i joined this discussion board.

i remember the morning conversations that always brought me laughter, and i think there were only a but about 9 or 10 regulars back then!

i will now turn 57 years old in a few months.

Diogenesister

I'm only a few years behind some of you but I remember I used to think Rush were old blokes🤣🤣Now they look like smooth cheeked youngsters to me.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Meanwhile, over on You tube....

JW thoughts finds his....well, thoughts, out in the wilderness...

Lloyd :@jwthoughts "Are you seriously suggesting I removed a comment on someone else's channel?!!"

Lloyd. Some of us may be a bit long in the tooth but we've mostly heard of "delete".

SBF It must be very lonely, and a chill wind over there in the bunker.

I agree. He only seems to be able to go all Captain Mainwaring on everyone.

And if that doesn't work he doesn't have a plan B. I don't like invoking Godwin's law for EXJWs, but i can't help thinking he learnt that at daddy elders knee. I really do. It's textbook The Bad ~~Lieutenant~~ Elder.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Someone wrote on Twitter :

Thank you #LloydPIMO 😂😂🤣

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Q: Does he make his own book available for free? If not, why not?

He wasn't going to make the bootlegged copies free, let alone his own book😂 If I recall correctly he was going to charge a tenner for them?

He also failed to mention what really bugged people....that he was advertising his website on the cover of the bootlegged Crises of Conscience he was selling😂🙄

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Kim has Mr. Novosello really been engaged as his solicitor? Did he actually admit to being? I think Lloyd wrote that letter himself, it was so unprofessional and let's face it Lloyds got a big enough ego to think he could. Also Lloyd's a complete crook and I think he bunged that guy some money to use his letter headed note paper.

Kim he's not suing anyone !!! He's lying to his patrons to get their money & sympathy. We have to tell them!

I think you should counter sue. He's lying about you publicly, Kim. That way he will be forced to put up or shut up and well find out if Mr. Novosello is legit his solicitor, or not.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Kim has mr. Novoselo actually admitted to being his solicitor, please? Did he admit to writing the letter and, if he did, is he qualified?

It's just I did some undergraduate law modules and it really didn't seem a legit legal letter to me, notwithstanding the language issues.

I think this dude allowed him maybe as a favour to a mate or maybe because he bunged him some cash, to use his name, whilst Lloyd (with his big ego thinking he could) wrote that letter himself!!!

I think you should sue him. For reals. He is slandering you, Kim. He is taking money off of those patrons whilst he either slinks off somewhere else with more hookers, or bums around doing nothing. Either way it's false pretences to say he's working.

Seriously Kim please counter sue. Then you will see whether he has really engaged the services of a solicitor or not and he will at least be forced to pay poor old Novosello who has been thrown head first into this mess (if indeed he is a student. If not I've no sympathy for him)

NB Tell Tale has a much bigger platform, how come no one is going after him if it's all about the size of your platform, Lloyd???

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Disassociation letter

by joao in

i sent my disassociation letter two days ago!

i couldn't stand it anymore!

so many lies, the exploitation of sincere people, the ridiculous amount of rules and all this protection of pedophiles, plus the life of gb as if they were wealthy dictators!

Diogenesister

I hope there are no problems for you with your family. I've never been in your situation myself but I've read and heard the stories of many many people who have. The two main pieces of advice they all give is to not be too dogmatic about things and to pose everything as a question, rather than a statement of fact. Known as 'socratic questioning' it encourages their own critical thinking skills to kick in and helps to stop them doubling down on their beliefs (which, by the way, you might find they do as a reflex bourne of conditioning).

The other thing they advise is to be the best husband and father you can, even if you're struggling. This might be especially true in your daughters case but what they mean by that is to try to do things with them away from the cult. So fun family bonding stuff....anything to allow them to see that you haven't changed as a person and that life away from watchtower can be satisfying, fun & safe etc. It also gives them breathing space to start to think for themselves. Many people have said that physical time & space away from constant reinforcement of watchtower beliefs allowed them to really think properly (it's also why cults insist so strongly on meetings).

I wish you all the best my friend and I'm happy another person will not be waisting their life in servitude to watchtower!