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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Can anyone please tell me why Lloyd's head and face is so fat? His body isn't nearly as fat as his face and head would have you believe. What's up with that? Not that his body is any great shakes either, but compared to his face

  Not sure I think it's very helpful to focus on looks. None of us are perfect in that department (except me🤡) But since you asked....

  The short answer is he is overweight. Lloyd is very tall, so it's not as apparent as it would be for a shorter person. This picture was taken in his 30s. It's the weight around the midriff that's most damaging for someone so young.

  I always knew there was something going on with Lloyd emotionally because his weight fluctuated so dramatically for a man in his 30s...like literally from one video to the next, at times. It all says to me that he needs councilling. That he gives people life advice who leave questions on his "speakpipe" is ridiculous. The physician needs to heal himself first!!

  I think Lloyd's hair trigger response to a perceived slight, that has alienated him from so many, stems from childhood. His thin skin derives from a sense of shame at any perceived criticism.Psychologists say narcissistic anger stems from the threat of 'being found out as not being the person the narcissist portrays themselves as'.

  You can easily imagine how that could stem partly from a rigidly controlled JW upbringing!

  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Lloyd is notorious for creating an illusion that they are hurting for money and needing everything to be crowdfunded. On his last trip to Australia a collection was taken up amongst the locals that ended up covering his entire family's trip when you damn well know he could have afforded it.

  When a family of four is being flown to the other side of the planet on other people's generosity is the point where activism isn't really activism anymore. It's a front for living a rather comfortable lifestyle, which is why he is so angry and is lashing out with lawsuits.

  I tried to say something to this effect on the thread on this board about the Australian gathering.

  I'm not going to say much more but it has been glaringly obvious he has used the generosity and kind heartedness, in particular, of two people who used to be on this board quite often. Whom I watched awaken.

  I felt deflated because I had my one and only contra temps with Dub stepped over it. I tried to explain to him privately it really wasn't born of resentment. I just really hate seeing people taken advantage of. I think mainly because it's happened to me so often in my life it's....as the kids say.....quite triggering for me.😜
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  Does the WTS have a clergy class

  by blondie in

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  this can be confusing because the wts has adjusted from not having a clergy class to not having a "paid" clergy class.. "a congregation of brothers precludes having a proud clergy class that honors itself with high-sounding titles and elevates itself above a laity" wt 6/1/2001 p. 12, pp 11. still same idea in 2021 wt october, p. 20, pp.

  7, but 2022 in the wt publication, frequently asked questions about jehovah’s witnesses, page 13, the wts inserts "paid" in front of "clergy perhaps to shore up their current statement in secular courts they have clergy, just not paid) "following the model of first-century christianity, jehovah’s witnesses have no clergy-laity division.

  all baptized witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work.

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  But they do have a paid clergy class....Circuit overseer's (the most thoughtless name for an American religion!).

  The stipend of Christendom's clergy is entirely the same thing as the monthly allowance of that of a CO!
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  What have you forgotten you ever even knew?

  by Simon in

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  at a certain point, as the years tick by, you start to realize that you have forgotten a lot of things.

  typically, something you learned, some knowledge or skill you used to have, that you just haven't used for so long you no longer remember anything but that you once knew it.. i saw an article about electrical resistors the other day, and how the colored bands signify the rating.

  now all i remember is that i used to know it, and that resistors do something with, erm, electricity ...

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  Victor Neurons are always fighting for territory and those not used commit suicide.

  Hi Victor if they committ suicide, why does it all come back to us sometimes decades later?

  Iownmylife My grandson is 6 months old and it’s fun to sing to him. So there have been several mornings that i have waked with old songs playing in my head that were popular kid songs in the early 5os. Seems when you need to sing Did You Ever See A Lassie, it all comes back!

  It's so funny how that happens! My nursery songs came back to me when I had my boys, then I forgot them again and now I have a baby niece and nephew it all returns for the 3rd time around.
  
  

  
  
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  What have you forgotten you ever even knew?

  by Simon in

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  at a certain point, as the years tick by, you start to realize that you have forgotten a lot of things.

  typically, something you learned, some knowledge or skill you used to have, that you just haven't used for so long you no longer remember anything but that you once knew it.. i saw an article about electrical resistors the other day, and how the colored bands signify the rating.

  now all i remember is that i used to know it, and that resistors do something with, erm, electricity ...

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  When you get to live as long as I have that applies to practically every film I've ever watched and every book I've ever read😂. It's actually quite handy sometimes because I get to read them all over again....I usually figure out I've read it before around page 430🤦

  My kids are taking their GCSEs at the moment and I (attempt😂) to help them revise. It's amazing how it all comes flooding back - and just how much I'd forgotten, yet at the same time is still in my brain🤪

  It's also amazing how little the curriculum has changed in nearly 40 years!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Floyd Devon's:

  "While hiring the best legal support I can afford, I will do so as frugally as possible as (I) don't want a situation where money given to support my work ends up almost entirely in the pockets of prostitutes lawyers."

  This man has literally zero self awareness 🤦🤦🤦🙄
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  ......I actually believe he's what's known as a dark empath. He has a lot of the character traits.
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  Would a JW accused to be a murderer (in a judicial committee) be reported to the police?

  by psyco in

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  i am wondering if a jw accused to be a murderer (or any other serious crime except csa) in a judicial committee would be reported to the police.. if i sexually abused or molested a child, i would not be reported to the police.. what about if i killed a person: would i be instead?.

  it is not a matter of being right or wrong but i am only curious to know if there is at least a sort of coherence regarding the internal policies for serious crimes....

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  Ok I know of a JW whose neighbour was beating his 80 plus year old mother up...HIS MOTHER. JW refused to report him to the police so she approached his ex wife and asked her to do it. This ex wife refused and said it serves the old lady right because she spoilt him.

  Result: he continued. They are reluctant to go to the police and many would say it's against their faith. The real reason is that they are terrified it will somehow reflect badly on watchtower.

  (I was a child at the time and was informed about it later)
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  Toblerone5 🤣I'm dead Th ...TH....THHHHH
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  New JW.Watch Website - Plans, Ideas & Submissions

  by Simon in

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  i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.

  https://jw.watch.

  please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..

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  Simon do you know about Watchtower History site?

  I think they would be good to include because they are not "apostates" but rather two academics whose hobby is watchtower history and could be seen by JWs as a neutral source? Just a thought as a link??

  https://youtu.be/XBWMonB5j9I