Posts by Diogenesister

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Dear Female ExJWs

by Simon in

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judging by some forum comments and tweets, it seems like some female exjw's feel they are being ignored or excluded from things.

i thought i'd share my views.

what could possibly go wrong .... first, i think it's unfair to post and judge people based on a private chat shared without permission and posted without context.

Funnily enough I think in this particular instance the person who organized this video is doing a bit of healing. It will take time, but I think it's moving in a positive direction and Cappytan has been smoothing the way forward, in my opinion. Thank you, if you see this.

I've also noticed quite a few male exjws very specifically featuring female exjw discussing subjects relevent to us (Jake, I'm looking at you).

HOW-ever......I understand why this is a prickly subject for many of us and I'm afraid there has been a bit of a history of that kind of over bearing i-know-best behaviour from *some* exjw men....but they are by far the minority and usually repeat offenders.

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Still here.

by Lee Marsh in

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the last 2 1/2 years have been extremely stressful.

while the rest of the world was dealing with covid, i was also dealing with cancer.

in fact it seems none of my doctors knew about it.

Diogenesister

Oh my goodness it's rare we get to hear such fantastic news, thank you for sharing it with us!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

SHGuys, this is such toxic behavior this community does not need personal grievances between 2 parties as its not our beef so please only talk about ex jw topics and let sleeping dogs lie. Kind regards

I understand why you posted this because it may seem insane of us to continue posting when there is no further "news" as such.

The reason we do so is to keep updating this thread so that it ranks higher in search results, it's as simple as that.

If someone searches Lloyd Evans we want them to be aware of his negative behaviour because for too long he has silenced and bullied others in this community and we don't want his victims to think they're alone.

There is also a deep conflict of interest in his use of exploited women and girls and his CSA, domestic violence and sexual assault advocacy. His fraudulent insistence that he cares for those leaving Watchtower has been exposed as a lie and his activism nothing but fiscal self interest - for which he has cruelly driven off anyone who is a threat or with a dissenting opinion to his.

The only ex witnesses he was interested in were those he could use for content or to further his career and he has never renumerated any of them.

There is method in our madness, Steve.

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Beards- just told by an elder

by dothemath in

i know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought i would share a recent finding from canada.. while visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform.

(it was a very close vote).

the direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.. so some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.. it’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though..

Diogenesister

St George of England Here in the UK in our congregation there are several brothers who have a full beard and are used to give talks, other meeting parts and prayers etc.

Back in the 1970's in another part of the country, I had a beard and never had any problem. Maybe a case of having to use what you have, cannot afford to be too choosy!

George

St. George Yes my JW best friend's father had a real "Santa" beard....pretty messy. He converted in the 70s after his wife got involved (always felt he did so to protect his family more than anything). I remember them arguing about his beard because after a few years the elders asked him to cut it off and he refused. He said it was bonkers because he'd always had a beard!

I think they really wanted him for an elder because he had the perfect witness family, was as an aircraft engineer and test pilot, so he was Uber useful - could make and design.anything. literally.

Kept the beard and worked behind the scenes doing the books and heading up building stuff.

If they need you enough...you get to keep the beard.

They need baptised males at the moment.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

SBF Lloyd himself said in the Andrew Gold interview that exploitation in Thailand was a “conversation worth having”, yet to my knowledge he is yet to engage in that conversation.

I know. Also, when he was complaining about Kim Silvio's latest video, he said it proved that her heavy weight concerns about the conflict of interest in his using vulnerable, trafficked, third world prostitutes and being a CSA advocate, were therefore bogus.

Sort of implying the video proved it was just a frivolous obsession with his sex life😳🤦🤦.

Anyway the way he framed these "heavy weight concerns"(paraphrasing) was so spot-on I thought "so you do understand how women feel and the import of what you've done!!!. You just don't care!!".

Vintage He should “trademark” that expression and rent it out to politicians.

😂😂

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Nice to hear / Gorby's son

by Gorb in

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gorby's son, 12 year old,, made his father happy and thinking.. he said: "truth and logic are connected.

jw.org is not logic so it has no truth".. one line with so much to think about.. g..

Diogenesister

Smart lad Gorby!!

@nathan natas I live your anagram for POET!!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Wing Commander If Preparation H ever needed a spokesman, there's always Hemmorhoid Evans. Now, with new fuzzy applicator head.

Yes.... Preparation H could get his new Thai "girlfriend" he was dating for 45.342 seconds to say .......

" He ma Ryoid Evans"🤷🏻‍♀️.....😎😎😎😜

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

What the hell is "a false factual claim"? A claim is either false or factual.

I mean okay, I know what they're trying to say but this really is amateur hour.

I don't. ..😳🤷‍♀️

Shall be punished by a fine of up to five hundred daily ~~pushups~~ units

What the hell is five hundred daily units? A fine for life or what? Sounds like some kind of prison slang....five hundred mins a day in solitary...or a solitary 'bunker' lol

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SCOTUS ruling on the Stratton canvasing case: Cappytan & Mark O'Donnell livestream

by Diogenesister in

i just saw got a message from cappytan that he is going live on the 19th june est (uk 8 pm) with mark o'donnell & jake alt worldly to discuss the recent scotus ruling in favour of watchtower re: the stratton v. watchtower case.

so the stratton mayor required anyone canvasing door to door to fill out a form prior to visiting residents homes.

watchtower claimed the form, which required you to reveal your name, was unconstitutional and interfered with their first amendment, free speech rights.. my step father in the uk was responsible for our restriction on 'cold calling" law, enacted to protect the vulnerable from illegitimate businessmen, criminals and others intent on taking advantage of the vulnerable at home or otherwise doing them harm.

Diogenesister

Hi all. I just saw got a message from Cappytan that he is going live on the 19th June EST (UK 8 pm) with Mark O'Donnell & Jake Alt worldly to discuss the recent SCOTUS ruling in favour of Watchtower re: the Stratton v. Watchtower case.

So the Stratton mayor required anyone canvasing door to door to fill out a form prior to visiting residents homes. Watchtower claimed the form, which required you to reveal your name, was unconstitutional and interfered with their first Amendment, free speech rights.

My step father in the UK was responsible for our restriction on 'cold calling" law, enacted to protect the vulnerable from illegitimate businessmen, criminals and others intent on taking advantage of the vulnerable at home or otherwise doing them harm. It is a by-law usually enacted in areas with high numbers of the elderly, assisted living or those with learning disabilities.

It's seems as if the Stratton mayor was attempting to do something similar?*

Anyway should be interesting since they are commenting on a watchtower video on the subject.

*NB there had been a recent murder of a householder by a canvasser in the next town.

https://youtu.be/tHOBK07rdWM

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

depending on the success of the criminal lawsuit and the damages paid out. Of course, those sued criminally can be further sued civilly.”

Hang on...if by some chance he wins a case against any of them, will the Croatian government pay him the damages, since it's a criminal case? Anyone know? (It's just in the UK if the guilty don't pay up in a criminal case people can get damages from the government).

In other news......I just discovered something I posted ages ago online (not here) has been posted by a member on Lloyd's kiwi farms Lolcow thread😜🤣🤣
Something to do with the EXJW to SJW pipeline!