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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  The issue was him misrepresenting his fBSinterest in Mormonism to the missionaries, but he reframes it as: “if you think reasons for believing the LDS faith should be kept secret and never spoken about publicly unless it’s through the filter of the church, that’s very telling”. Yeah, nice try Lloyd. Nobody said that. They are objecting to you being a slimeball.

  Eww he's so infuriating. He uses stock insults in the same way he claims the cultists he denigrates do. In this case it's the "you are silencing criticism of the church!!" when the issue was entirely different and focused on his treatment of the women.

  "I always leave my audience to draw their own conclusions" yeah.... absolute cobblers! At least stand behind what you do and don't pretend to be a neutral observer!!🙄
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Even inserting or omitting a comma in a “secret document” can later tell Watchtower a lot about who the recipient (i.e., mole) had been.

  I would assume the more high level the information and the fewer have access, the higher level security they would put on it. Elders documents are so widely circulated anyway It would be silly to go too crazy with security. Any number of other people, including determined non believing family members, could gain access to them.
  
  
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  Are You Ready For This?

  by Anna Marina in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu0xdk2-4bs.

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  Sea Breeze So the WT presents the GB as:

  1. the rightful rulers of the earth

  2. God's mouthpiece

  3. the nanny of all of God's "belongings"

  Then they get upset when JW's treat them like rock stars and tell them to knock it off? What gives? The reactions are appropriate if what they claim about themselves is true.

  The only other person I could think of, within living memory, who comes near to having those sort of credentials and the (naturally) resulting absolute power - was the God-Emperor Hirohito.
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  The day the music died.

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  is there any new music or singers whatsoever nowadays or just junk?

  and how about movies, besides documentaries is there anything at all, any movie at all, any new actor at all that that has any real worth to watch and enjoy or is it all a boring waste of time.

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  That's when you know you've reached one of those "age" milestones, when you gripe that the old stuff was the best. I remember when I was young and we'd roll our eyes at the old folks telling us that today's music was garbage, not like the golden age of the 30s, 40s, 50s, etc.

  Now I listen to 70s, 80s, and 90s music on YouTube, and I see comments about how today's music is garbage, not like the golden age of the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and so on. And I keep catching myself about to nod, but I know it's inevitable. I just don't want to think that I'm that far along in the cycle...

  100% that's why I studiously avoid such comments and trawl new music looking for something to love......which happens increasingly rarely and usually involves cover versions by new artists....very rarely as good as the original of course (woops I said it I'm officially OLD AHHHHH)🤣🤣😂

  Movie and music studios aren't looking for great sounds and great stories. They have corporate formulas

  Apparently that's true for popular songs too. It's called the "millennial whoop" I believe?
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  Are You Ready For This?

  by Anna Marina in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu0xdk2-4bs.

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  🤣🤣🤣

  I really really REALLY hope the Bethel snoopers show this to the superstars themselves

  Notice how his wife doesn't get involved in those shenanigans....but the Bethel helpers/bethelites do. For shame.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  VintageApparently he released the Pillow talk video before the mole was ready. he wanted to get more and it put him at risk
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Trying to have a relationship with a narcissist eventually damages the non-narcissist.

  Hi I meant to write "one extreme OR the other" so in other words some JW kids grow up to be narcissists and some spend their lives centering others and develop no boundaries.

  And yes I grew up with a narcissist then married one and I'm always second guessing myself as to whether I've developed narcissistic tendencies. I'm sure I have. These men were always in competition with their own kids and so if my kids show concern toward me I'm terrified I'm 'making it about me'. Since my father always did, as did my first husband.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  limboyfat, that’s an amazing video on narcissism. Sam Vaknin explains how all humans start out with narcissism, but most people work their way out of it as they mature. And he says that an adult narcissist only sees the people around him as useful instruments. It clears up so much. Also, he talks about the narcissist’s voracious appetite for praise.

  Sort of off topic but there has to be a reason a child isn't able to adjust from the natural developmental narcissism a child has, to the empathy for and even centering of others whilst maintaining healthy boundaries, of an emotionally healthy adult.

  Why is it JW kids so often have this problem. Often becoming one extreme of the other....perhaps Dijana developing the tendency to have no sense of self and preservation of such.

  Some women can swing from one to the other, too, which can be confusing to their own family later on.

  JW parents who prioritize the organization over their children, perhaps create an environment where kids are unable to out grow the Narcissism of young childhood??
  
  
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  Magnum Actor died.

  by Lost in the fog in

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  https://news.sky.com/story/magnum-pi-actor-roger-e-mosley-dies-after-sustaining-injuries-in-car-crash-12668467.

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  I can't believe no one has posted about OLivia Newton-John (we used to call her Neutron Bomb but I thought that a little disrespectful!) She's a Dame, apparently , I had no idea she was a Brit....born in Cambridge! I have fond memories of doing our class V Class version of "Glee" on the playing fields at lunch time😊

  Loved that musical💕
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I can't find any reference to Lloyd Evans on either the state's documents or the website. Not saying it isn't there, just saying that if it is there, its buried deep enough that I didn't see it in half an hour of poking around.

  As to the website etc it's possible they removed all references to him after the fall out of his publicly revealing the identities of JW apostates, in order to increase AAWA membership numbers.

  Wasnt he John Cedars on the documents? (Edit: you're aware of this sorry)