Rattigan How are you calling 1914 wrong without replacing it with something that can be right?
Eh?
There are so many things that I can definitively say are wrong, yet not be able to give the correct answer.🤦🏻♀️
1914 generation is long gone.
1975 was a joke 40 years ago.
i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?
Rattigan How are you calling 1914 wrong without replacing it with something that can be right?
Eh?
There are so many things that I can definitively say are wrong, yet not be able to give the correct answer.🤦🏻♀️
for those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.
april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.
i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..
He's also been proven completely wrong about so-called aggressive "regressive" activism. With more effective big protests & lobbying than ever!
📢I'll have three + naughty forty - 340 please 😊
everybody knows the famous "stay alive still 75" audio clip but here is a clip from 1972 with english subtitles.
harold mouritz was the branch committee member in finland when he gave this talk.
later he became the coordinator of the australian branch.
Wow!🤯That's the first time I've heard this talk - there's absolutely no denying his meaning here....no fudging his words whatsoever! The society has never been this way with any other date....even 1914!!!
An aside....is that the dude as a younger man on the two photos at left?? With beard? Or is that channel owner?
i've been crapping on the wt a lot lately, which sometimes seems a bit unfair to me, especially since i was never in, therefore i don't really have a dog in the fight.
to provide a bit of balance, i'll reminisce about the rampant prophecy speculation going on in mainstream christianity (i refuse to use the wt's pejorative term: "christendom", especially since by definition, they're part of that classification 🙄) in the 70s and 80s.
to be fair, the churches themselves had been around long enough to realise that end times interpretations are like arseholes, everybody has one.
You're correct Not Former ...nothing like it!😂
Very 70s...very trendy ATM , 70s styling. Makes me rather nostalgic...
NB it's exactly the kind of thing witnesses get paranoid about. In fact a lot of our JW urban legend myths and stories have originated in "Christendom" we all came to find out!
https://www.jwupdates.com/post/new-patterson-visitor-center-and-first-century-museum.
january 1, 2024, marked the official opening of the patterson visitor center, located at the watchtower educational center in patterson, new york, u.s.a. the feature museum of the visitors’ center is entitled “first-century bible village.” brother isaiah miller, who works in the museum department at bethel, said: “the bible village was designed to provide everyone with a realistic and educational experience.
studies show that interactive learning has a powerful effect on people of all ages.” after her tour, one visitor exclaimed: “this museum made me feel like i had been transported back to the land of ancient israel.
Pioneer schminoneer I love it when Gentiles dress up "like Jews" and play "Israel" for other Gentiles in fake "Israel-Land" based on (and this is my favorite part) the New Testament.
Yeah...how come that's not "cultural appropriation"?? 😂
https://www.jwupdates.com/post/new-patterson-visitor-center-and-first-century-museum.
january 1, 2024, marked the official opening of the patterson visitor center, located at the watchtower educational center in patterson, new york, u.s.a. the feature museum of the visitors’ center is entitled “first-century bible village.” brother isaiah miller, who works in the museum department at bethel, said: “the bible village was designed to provide everyone with a realistic and educational experience.
studies show that interactive learning has a powerful effect on people of all ages.” after her tour, one visitor exclaimed: “this museum made me feel like i had been transported back to the land of ancient israel.
At least Ken Ham has employees and contractors that he has to pay.
Was thinking the same.
Is it possible to clue the governments up about their fraudulent costs? That cannot be legal, surely?
i put this under beliefs, doctrine, practices but it could well fit under coverups, i think.
anyway fyi and if you are interested, a one time member here , easyprompt now has a youtube channel :easyprompt_fragrantaddendum exposing wt...i have watched a couple of them, and they are well put together..
Great video Easy Prompt!💕 It's going to be super popular.
N.B. oh my ...never heard of "Blues Traveller" that song "The Hook" is da bomb!!!!🤯🤯🤯 I'm going to buy the CD and wear it the heck out now😂
no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.
called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.
every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.
Bill I'm so sorry. I cannot believe how much blood watchtower has on their hands.
The story of the original Menlo park elders is tragic. So is this place in Silicon valley?? Explains a lot, if so.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
It's at 1:32:18 on the video and Richard is talking specifically about Lloyd's information in TRA on C.T.Russell when Barb "corrects" him and challenges Cedars to a "facts" smack down lol
on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
I think thread OP is correct.
Toni wouldn't hack all these changes, being old school. The GB are supposed to accept the results of a 2/3 vote, I believe? I agree he probably resigned, rather than co-sign the recent changes.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if he'd handed in a DA letter. That would explain why he's stopped attending meetings (although I suppose it's possible he could attend via zoom without the publishers necessarily being aware? If they kept him off camera/anonymous for privacy).