Posts by Diogenesister

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What's the Worst Advice You Heard of an Elder Giving Someone?

by Sea Breeze in

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friends

i believe an an elder told someone who's daughter (14 yo) became sexually active with a 26 year old in the neighborhood, that maybe they should get married.

so, they did... with parental consent.

he turned out to be a ex-convict who shot his first wife in the face with a shotgun.

Diogenesister

LHG People in the religion who already have a career, wealth/education under their belt but push a life of poverty on some naive young person - are among the worst, in my opinion!

Exactly ! I remember expecting to meet an older, married lady, not an unmarried young woman barely out of High school! Being from a somewhat worldly background even as a young child I questioned the sense of a girl like that choosing to go part time in a bakery*. Not lost of me the daughter of her pioneer partner who brought her in, was studying at Swansea university for her BA in french!!

Thank goodness you had the good sense not to give up your pensionable earnings! What brought this lass to mind was the fact she will be just now hitting retirement age. 😞

*This girl was a convert not someone with witness parents supporting her.

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What's the Worst Advice You Heard of an Elder Giving Someone?

by Sea Breeze in

jw
friends

i believe an an elder told someone who's daughter (14 yo) became sexually active with a 26 year old in the neighborhood, that maybe they should get married.

so, they did... with parental consent.

he turned out to be a ex-convict who shot his first wife in the face with a shotgun.

Diogenesister

Iwasn’t born-in but came into the JWs already with a full-time job.

My study teacher tried her darndest to get me to quit and it was suggested that I should take up housecleaning.. I said ‘no way’ and was insulted for doing so. This self-righteous old lady probably didn’t think very highly of me as a ‘worldly’ young woman.. My dress was highly scrutinized.

LHG My Bible study teacher was a very good teacher and bought several people to baptism from the D2D.

One such young lass of about 20 She persuaded to take a job serving in a bakery so she could finish at 2pm and cone out in service everyday with her. She was a convert & passionate believer who quit her job as a teacher herself to pioneer.

Difference being she'd already had her education, a career and was married to an Aerospace design engineer who was probably in the top 5% of wage earners in the country. Worse still, due to the happy influence of her husband, her own daughter's went to uni or community colleges gaining M.Sc. or B.A.s

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Diogenesister

Jehalapeno It shouldn’t be. Taking mushrooms is not “reckless” and who gives a crap about them being illegal. They’re mostly harmless, safer than being an alcoholic like Lloyd is, and the only reason they’re illegal is because the government is a cult and wants its pound of flesh.

With a caveat I'd say they're harmless. For fully grown adults only, because any psychedelic can potentially trigger longer term psychotic behaviour in a young developing brain or if a youth undiagnosed or prone to schizophrenia etc

Other than that I'm with you 100% compared to alcohol and many many prescription drugs it's no risk to family life.
Taking it definitely gives you food for thought anyway (which I guess you would know about being a food item yourself !)

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Found this new channel!!

by Beth Sarim in

stumbled across this new channel.

this is amazing!!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmjvantod1s.

Diogenesister

Great talk. Interesting other Bethelites were willing to open up and say they wouldn't send their kids there.

Another tragedy of a torn apart family.

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Interested in a new WATCHTOWER firearm? How about a Watchtower cap or T-Shirt? :)

by Balaamsass2 in

leave your ipad and go bag behind...but don't forget your new watchtower ar-15 or sniper rifle!

wear your watchtower baseball cap and t-shirt to command the high ground at the next jw picnic or fishing trip!

sure to raise some eyebrows!

Diogenesister

🤣🤣🤣

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Jehovah's Witnesses' "disfellowshipping" examined in Psychiatric Journal. "How Religious Shunning Ruins Lives".

by Balaamsass2 in

if it is illegal for minors to get married, enter into contracts, drink, and smoke, why is it legal for them to enter into lifelong religious contracts they can not break without family shunning and community ostracism????

how religious shunning ruins lives.

a form of institutionalized estrangement, shunning hurts health of the excluded.. updated march 27, 2024 |psychology today magazine.

Diogenesister

Fantastic article. Absolutely fantastic.Great post Balaams Ass.

Id say way more than one million people are affected by some form of shunning from exposure to WT theology.

I agree Sea Breeze There's many people I've come across who were never baptised but are shunned by family just the same. Many having psychological problems, mental health issues, extreme risk taking behaviour, sexual self harm (I'd term it), addiction, alcoholism etc

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Did Geoffrey Jackson Actually Reject His Faith During the ARC Hearing?

by xjwsrock in

as portrayed in the convention videos this year about sergei (the fictional jw character in cold-war-era ussr), the jw leaders expect loyalty, even enduring imprisonment and/or death.

in one scene sergei was offered an early release from prison if he would sign a statement renouncing his religion.

well he refused and spent 5 years in prison as a result.

Diogenesister

was all this really 8 years ago ? where have those years gone ?

I agree Stan. Feels more like about 4. Lockdown groundhog days??

TOH Jackson's testimony makes you think of someone with a lot to hide.

Didn't it?!! He was really evasive. I really don't think it was a question of compartmentalisation. I think he had orders to say whagtever it took and get out fast! This was all about protecting Jehovah's holy money chest at all costs!

remember reading a thread here on his wordage "Guardians Of the Doctrine".

It sounded so modern and "worldly and Harry Potter-ish when he said it, it didnt even sound like JW speak.

Turns out it was first uttered by the pope a few years ago,

That's just so typical I've come to find out! Just like their "real life stories" too!

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What's the Worst Advice You Heard of an Elder Giving Someone?

by Sea Breeze in

jw
friends

i believe an an elder told someone who's daughter (14 yo) became sexually active with a 26 year old in the neighborhood, that maybe they should get married.

so, they did... with parental consent.

he turned out to be a ex-convict who shot his first wife in the face with a shotgun.

Diogenesister

I knew a (ex Sikh) Indian sister who lived with her very elderly grandmother who had raised her when her mother died and her father later remarried abroad.

Well she was seeing all her (non jw) contemporaries having arranged marriages and kids & felt left out. Her family offered to arrange a marriage for her if she wished. Naturally elders wouldn't hear of this.

Well this particular elder took offence at grandmas 'pagan' religious Indian statues & of course claimed they were interfering with the JWs spirituality & therefore her JW marriage prospects (nothing to do with lack of eligible JW lads, let alone JW Indian lads!).

So she took elders advice & moved out. Some time after the grandma collapsed and died at home alone. This girl never forgave herself & neither did her extended family.

Talk about lack of cultural sensitivity.

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