Kaik. You are so right ... surely the jews know THEIR OWN BOOKS the satan IS considered an employee of God, (early on likely a lesser God as the old books are polytheistic and were redacted )
Diogenesister
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Why would Jehovah and Jesus talk to Satan?
by hardtobeme inif satan is the greatest apostate there is, why he was allowed to be in heaven?
job chapters 1 and 2 says that jehovah talked to him.
wasn't jehovah supposed to shun his son and set an example to all parents?.
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Bible History
by bitsnbobs inhi all,i left the org in the late 90s.
not because of beliefs or the 1914/generation fiasco.
just thoughtlessness, hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
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Theres a great documentary Isreal Finklestein has made too based on the bible unearthed. Just google it. These guys are basically saying there was no exodus and that thr caananites and Isrealites are one and the same. Obviously the right wing Isreali extremists do not like this, its a political hot potato to say the least. Please let us know what you know about genisis 3.15... -
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Why would Jehovah and Jesus talk to Satan?
by hardtobeme inif satan is the greatest apostate there is, why he was allowed to be in heaven?
job chapters 1 and 2 says that jehovah talked to him.
wasn't jehovah supposed to shun his son and set an example to all parents?.
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Too right Steve2. Talking snake my arse. Btw doesnt even mention satan, no concept of him till later collation/redaction of bible in babylon...in line with their myths. -
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I Don't Get It!
by John Aquila inthere are literally about thirty young single very good looking sisters in this one kingdom hall under the age of 30. that is just one kingdom hall.
in the circuit there are literally hundreds of young beautiful jw girls under 30 who are single and anxious to get married.
about two years ago, this one single good looking brother who is about 30 years old and who is an elder married this plain looking sister who is 59 years old.
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t seems like there is a lot of confusion these days among JW as to what a generation is and which one you belong to. Also, these young Brothers are tired of waiting for the "New System" and the promise or having their own pet Lion and they've settled for a "Cougar" in the here and now. PETE ZA HUT second funniest post after 'the old rugged dot' JOHN AQUILA. 1) Older men seem to loose their judgement over what 'a looker 'is. I know I have. I put it to you that someone you find attractive now (ie under 30. Enough) you wouldnt have when u were younger. 2)Elders of 25 to 30 (total power)with low self esteem.REALLY?????? 3)Forgot that just because men have left the org doesnt stop them being sexist w@#*@!s. -
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Getting it out of my system, a VERY long introduction/outpouring..
by adimmedlight inwarning, novel ahead:.
after a few months of lurking on this site, i've decided to take the plunge...i don't really care so much about introducing myself, but somehow there is some relief in the thought of getting my little story out there, just getting it out of my system.
i am the oldest of 5 kids.
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If there is one good thing I learned after I left the JWs it is this: Better to have questions that I can't answer than answers that I can't question. LOVE THIS Fleshlyheadmutant ! -
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Getting it out of my system, a VERY long introduction/outpouring..
by adimmedlight inwarning, novel ahead:.
after a few months of lurking on this site, i've decided to take the plunge...i don't really care so much about introducing myself, but somehow there is some relief in the thought of getting my little story out there, just getting it out of my system.
i am the oldest of 5 kids.
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I really enjoyed reading your story..lapped it up. As one of the other posters said..you could literally write a book, even the best need editors! You sound wise beyond your years, which is not surprising considering the life you have lived. It might be worth looking at some therapy.., and definately, above all else, if you can educate yourself. Do read 'Crises of conscience'by Ray Franze and maybe some history (Jeruselem by Simon Sebag Montefiore) and if you can do a course on critical thinking skills..a bit of light philosophy perhaps too!!?? Anything to ensure you have the tools you need to weed out the harmful from the benign. There is some good stuff on the web about recognizing signs of a cult. I am so glad you met kindness too in the JW, there ARE many good people who attend which is why it is so cruel when they are told to shun (possibly when true christian love and understanding is needed most). As you say the constant watching and being watched rang a bell for me, so stressful, so big brother 1984 ish, a modern witch hunt is what it is... closed sessions of JCs with zero rights. 'The world' is more just than that! I wish you lots of love, so glad u posted, thank you -
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JW's are semi-trinitarians and do not understand the Sacret Secret
by paradisebeauty ini have been searching pro and anti arguments for trinity, and found out there are anti-trinitarians who believe jesus did not preexist before his human life.
and i am thinking, it kind of makes sense.
what if yahweh created a second adam.
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JW's are semi-trinitarians and do not understand the Sacret Secret
by paradisebeauty ini have been searching pro and anti arguments for trinity, and found out there are anti-trinitarians who believe jesus did not preexist before his human life.
and i am thinking, it kind of makes sense.
what if yahweh created a second adam.
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Cofty...did you some folks still have gill marks, just on the top of their ears...we are the men from Atlantis!! So...wasnt jesus mum Mary?In which hes only half perfect. If not, if he was 'begotten' somehow just transferred into marys womb (ie shes a surrogate)in was sense does that vindigate jahs sovereignty as jesus is not a man, so no man has remained perfectly loyal (hes an angel..its cheating).Reckon judas is the real sacrifice as someone had to do it..and be damned.Of course all this is just Babylonian as the man Coffy said. -
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To Blue Dot or Not to Blue Dot. That is the question ....
by Oubliette inso i've been noticing recently that some khs in the area where i live (socal) are putting up the jw.org little blue dot, but others are not.
i would think this would be a mandatory directive from hq.
does anyone here have any intel on the matter?.
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Specially laughing at the rugged dot in its beautious brevity after that long winded letter...the old windbags ..! -
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To Blue Dot or Not to Blue Dot. That is the question ....
by Oubliette inso i've been noticing recently that some khs in the area where i live (socal) are putting up the jw.org little blue dot, but others are not.
i would think this would be a mandatory directive from hq.
does anyone here have any intel on the matter?.
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Wasanelder Once5 months ago
That old rugged dot! FUNNIEST THING IVE READ IN AGES!!! I know this post was months ago but had to comment!!